An honest question.

[quote=Acid Reigns]So I just got done playing around with solo top Lulu, and my question is, is there even a point to Teemo? She seems to basically do everything he does (save shroom) only better.... Her kite is better, her disable is better, her speed buff is better, and her damage seems to be better as well... The only real difference in their kit other than her skills being better versions of his, is her ult, which is also better than shrooms imo. So in all seriousness, what is the point of teemo...? Also Lulu is waaaay [color=#ff0080]CUTER <3[/color] ^.^[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian][[teemo]] is [center][h1][b]INFINITELY[/b][/h1][/center] more annoying than [[lulu]]. edit: wrong code[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]I honestly don't see it o.O Lulu has more range than teemo too....[/quote]

[quote=The LZ]He's the only living ward in the game. So even if a Teemo should do very badly, were he to be susceptible to commands from someone else on the team; he could be a moving clairvoyance. This is his purpose.[/quote]

[quote=BluAnimal]It's too funny to watch someone die to AP Teemo's [[noxious trap]]. And DoT's are the coolest thing in League of Legends, face it :3[/quote]

[quote=ExamplePrime]Hmm... Need to try this... Think the difference is teemos perma speed boost and DoT Also the blind disables most bruisers harrass[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210]I think Teemo is more annoying because he preforms the same with a worse kit.[/quote]

[quote=BluAnimal][icon=lulu size=64] [b][color=#008000]Pros[/color][/b] [list] [*] 550 Attack Range [*] Disable ([[whimsy]]) [*] Poke ([[glitterlance]]) [*] Speed buff ([[Help, Pix!]]) [*] Heal/Health Buff ([[wild growth]]) [*] Shield ([[help, pix!]]) [/list] [b][color=#ff0000]Cons[/color][/b] [list] [*] Relies on her passive ([[pix, faerie companion]]) to compete with [[teemo]]'s [[toxic shot]] [*] No DoT [*] Higher mana cost on all skills except for [[glitterlance]] [*]6300IP [/list] [icon=teemo size=64] [b][color=#008000]Pros[/color][/b] [list] [*] Poke ([[blinding dart]] [*] Higher scaling on AP ratios [*] Passive movement boost, as well as active ([[move quick]]) [*] [[camouflage]] passive [*] [[noxious trap]] Free ward/AP nuke to anyone who steps on it [*] 1350IP [/list] [b][color=#ff0000]Cons[/color][/b] [list] [*] 500 Attack Range [*] HIGH mana cost on [[blinding dart]] [*] Less pokes than [[lulu]] [/list] Probably missing a lot of key factors but yeah. [[lulu]] has more pokes and a shield, as well as an in-combat ultimate but relies heavily on skills than her auto attacks, burning a lot of mana. She has the potential to save allies and play a supporting role very effectively. [[Teemo]] has stronger AP scaling and base damage on all his skills and will use less mana, since [[toxic shot]] is a passive, but gives him less of a poking ability and relying more on auto attacks. His movement speed buff is also greater than Lulu's and he's 4950IP less than Lulu. It all comes down to how you wanna play. I could see Lulu being a lot of fun with all her pokes and what not, but Teemo would probably have a much stronger late game presence seeing as [[toxic shot]] will be indefinitely stroner than [[pix, faerie companion]] come late game.[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]teemo is beast. ppl just underestimate yordles..[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][[Toxic Shot]] outclasses Lulu's harass. It deals an extreme amount of base damage, scales with AP (not that you'll build any) and applies all the time for no cost while you're busy autoattacking with the AD you'll be building. [[Pix, Faerie Companion]] can be blocked by minions, isn't significantly upgradable and can be blocked by minions. [[Blinding Dart]], though it isn't as intense of a disable, actually deals significant damage at a MUCH lower cooldown than [[Whimsy]]. It also has a ridiculous AP scaling, though that's a bit beside the point. As long as your lane opponent is rendered useless for the duration of the blind, it's a stronger ability. The only thing it doesn't do is disable spells and slow, which against most top laners you should counterpick for, isn't a huge issue. [[Noxious Trap]] also makes him more difficult to successfully gank and allows him to split-push more easily. EDIT: [[Teemo]] also has a higher MS, AS, AD and armor, all of which make him more suited to combating AD top laners. Lulu's stats favor range, health/hp5 and mana/mp5, which make her safer, but not as much of a threat. Top lane [[Lulu]] definitely works, but Teemo still has his advantages.[/quote]