Ashe - the most underrated and abused champion...

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=DuffTime] This is probably one of the closes to balanced moments in the history of League, I think. [/quote] I have to disagree here, appears as one of the most balanced moments in history of LoL, truth is there's a few champs that are batshit insane for the way they outclass champs that play the same role (in solo-q that is), but they're overlooked and rarely played. You play Solo top Olaf, you should know he has nearly no counter, and he's not even one of the best examples for my statement. Also, I HAVE TO ask, why the fuck your signature changes every fucking post?![/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=ZioSerpe] She's the safest pick in the game. [/quote] Until Vayne Caitlyn and Graves run such an absolute train on her face on lane that she can't even hardly farm :P [quote=ZioSerpe] You play Solo top Olaf, you should know he has nearly no counter, and he's not even one of the best examples for my statement. Also, I HAVE TO ask, why the fuck your signature changes every fucking post?! [/quote] It's on random :) Yeah Olaf is strong and can handle most lanes with ease. ^_^ But yeah, even with a few champs being too strong I still feel it's at one of it's most balanced moments.[/quote]

[quote=Icuonuez][quote=Luther3000] Long duration stun from across the map is just a guaranteed kill if you catch someone with it, and a guaranteed kill is a guaranteed win late game, which is why Ashe became so popular around Dreamhack. [/quote] I'm reminded of Blitzcrank's grab, which is almost assuredly a kill if he hits with it. Plus, he can pull off the support role much better than Ashe can, IMO. The only thing Ashe has on him is super-slow and range. I think he makes up for that with more tankiness and CC.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=DuffTime] Until Vayne Caitlyn and Graves run such an absolute train on her face on lane that she can't even hardly farm :P [/quote] She only lacks a bit of power compared to them, but at equal player skill lvl, and assuming equally competent supports, there's she can be stopped from farming. [quote=DuffTime] It's on random :)[/quote] Do you have any idea how frustrating it is to see you having a gazillion different signatures showing at any given time while I can't even get to show my fucking avatar?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Icuonuez] [quote=Luther3000] Long duration stun from across the map is just a guaranteed kill if you catch someone with it, and a guaranteed kill is a guaranteed win late game, which is why Ashe became so popular around Dreamhack. [/quote] I'm reminded of Blitzcrank's grab, which is almost assuredly a kill if he hits with it. Plus, he can pull off the support role much better than Ashe can, IMO. The only thing Ashe has on him is super-slow and range. I think he makes up for that with more tankiness and CC. [/quote] I've seen a lot of support Blitzcranks lately, might be becoming popular.[/quote]

[quote=Icuonuez][quote=Luther3000] [quote=Icuonuez] [quote=Luther3000] Long duration stun from across the map is just a guaranteed kill if you catch someone with it, and a guaranteed kill is a guaranteed win late game, which is why Ashe became so popular around Dreamhack. [/quote] I'm reminded of Blitzcrank's grab, which is almost assuredly a kill if he hits with it. Plus, he can pull off the support role much better than Ashe can, IMO. The only thing Ashe has on him is super-slow and range. I think he makes up for that with more tankiness and CC. [/quote] I've seen a lot of support Blitzcranks lately, might be becoming popular. [/quote] He's great duo-bot with a carry. Those grabs..[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=ZioSerpe] [quote=DuffTime] Until Vayne Caitlyn and Graves run such an absolute train on her face on lane that she can't even hardly farm :P [/quote] She only lacks a bit of power compared to them, but at equal player skill lvl, and assuming equally competent supports, there's she can be stopped from farming. [quote=DuffTime] It's on random :)[/quote] Do you have any idea how frustrating it is to see you having a gazillion different signatures showing at any given time while I can't even get to show my fucking avatar? [/quote] lololololol Zio u so full of rage brah. You think Duff has a lot of sigs? Look at Jhoi and then PM her and ask how big her signature is, lul.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=Icuonuez] [quote=Luther3000] [quote=Icuonuez] [quote=Luther3000] Long duration stun from across the map is just a guaranteed kill if you catch someone with it, and a guaranteed kill is a guaranteed win late game, which is why Ashe became so popular around Dreamhack. [/quote] I'm reminded of Blitzcrank's grab, which is almost assuredly a kill if he hits with it. Plus, he can pull off the support role much better than Ashe can, IMO. The only thing Ashe has on him is super-slow and range. I think he makes up for that with more tankiness and CC. [/quote] I've seen a lot of support Blitzcranks lately, might be becoming popular. [/quote] He's great duo-bot with a carry. Those grabs.. [/quote] yep that shit makes me rage...[/quote]

[quote=Khazem]Ashe is still okay imo. She has a decent lanephase with the one of the easiest to gank lanes in the game. Her lategame damage is still very good (though not quite Tristana or Vayne 'good') and a good arrow can be a total gamechanger. Then again... you do need to be able to hit those arrows consistently...[/quote]

[quote=Icuonuez][quote=Khazem] Ashe is still okay imo. She has a decent lanephase with the one of the easiest to gank lanes in the game. Her lategame damage is still very good (though not quite Tristana or Vayne 'good') and a good arrow can be a total gamechanger. Then again... you do need to be able to hit those arrows consistently... [/quote] Yeah, missing an Ashe arrow late-game has an extremely negative effect on your team's success.[/quote]