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Chaox's Staple Build

Creator: Jebus McAzn June 22, 2011 5:51pm
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Chaox seems to like going with a staple build of BF Sword into Zeal into Bloodthirster into Phantom Dancer on most champions (Caitlyn, Tristana, Miss Fortune). After a lot of playing with AD carries I don't like this at all on QUITE A FEW CHAMPIONS, but not all of them. When I attack enemies, it doesn't feel like I have nearly enough DPS, and 9 times out of 10 I find Infinity Edge+Phantom Dancer to be a FAR stronger item core on almost any AD carry bar Ezreal/Urgot/other really skill-dependent champions.

Thoughts on Bloodthirster+Phantom Dancer? Personally I would only use it if your champion really needs that AD scaling, but even on someone like Caitlyn I find that I-Edge+PD is just BETTER.
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Agreed. The bonus crit chance synergizes so well with the Infinity Edge.
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I think the reason is The lifesteal he finds better in the long run. What happens when you come up against someone that has armor and you cant kill them quickly?
I LOVE Lifesteal on AD carries.
Its more of a playstyle and preference then what is better imho.
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It's all about dat life steal.

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Zeprido wrote:

Ew.


What he said.

I've never really liked bloodthirster on AD champs, tristana especially. My build on Ashe (and most AD carries) goes something like this (not in this order necessarily):

Berserker's Greaves
Infinity Edge
Banshee's Veil
Phantom Dancer
Guardian Angel
Last Whisper

So I usually don't find room for a bloodthirster.
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Trojan995 wrote:



What he said.

I've never really liked bloodthirster on AD champs, tristana especially. My build on Ashe (and most AD carries) goes something like this (not in this order necessarily):

Berserker's Greaves
Infinity Edge
Banshee's Veil
Phantom Dancer
Guardian Angel
Last Whisper

So I usually don't find room for a bloodthirster.

This is pretty much my build also for any ranged AD carry bar the obvious ones. Usually I end up selling AS boots for merc treads.

I just don't find the lifesteal to be amazing. Carries need to kite and deal damage safely; you're not Irelia or Lee Sin and you don't need to be annoying as hell to kill, you need to deal as much damage as possible while trusting your team to keep you alive.
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Culd not agree more. When i play a range carry, i ussaly play the ones that have great kiteing potenial, mostly cait and ashe. So i can't really answer for other heroes... But bloodthirster just seems silly on those heroes :S
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I think he goes for the BT because of the Lifesteal and it might be that he doesn't lose that much of dmg because he is an extremly skilled player and outplays his enemys with the BT.
Would love to see a Graph for that(Fully stacked BT vs. IE, both with PD and Zerks).

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How about Ezreal?

Bloodthirster would be the better option right?
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