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How do you farm versus AP Yi

Creator: FalseoGod June 19, 2012 7:23am
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Yesterday I had a most unfortunate encounter with this sir. I already knew the theory of him (how he works, damages, absurd sustain), but he makes farming underturret a near impossibility. I did manage to recover later on (though we lost coz our voli went first item bloodthirster versus yorick - who legendary'ed, moving on).

But seriously, I had to insta lucky pick, died to him once due to insta highlander (was pre-level 6 so no heal) + ignite, and gave me an overall hard time. Jungler ganked once, yi managed to move up to the turret and meditate there so we couldn't even consider attacking him at such low levels. He hits like a truck at low levels (and this considering I had MR Runes on and Defensive tree with MR), that Q damage is completely ******ed, it's like a Nidalee spear at maximum range with the difference you can only choose eating it or get zoned.

Is it a matter of simply surviving him? Will he suck later on if things are done right (which they simply weren't)? Or maybe next time get a strong top to switch lane?
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You were playing swain? I guess since you take out about lvl 6 for sustain and going mid.
He has high sustain, good damage but is squishy as hell. You have to land the full combo often. Nevermove, birdie and dot. Do this as often as you can, go in for harass if he uses aa for last hit.
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You dont you wait till late game and team fights when ap yi becomes useless
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His alpha strike has a looong cooldown, if he alpha strikes you, you have 15 seconds freetime before he can do it again, that is where you can harrass him to bits.
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Put your snare under where he Alpha Strikes.
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Crows foot wrote:

You were playing swain? I guess since you take out about lvl 6 for sustain and going mid.
He has high sustain, good damage but is squishy as hell. You have to land the full combo often. Nevermove, birdie and dot. Do this as often as you can, go in for harass if he uses aa for last hit.


I did but it's a really costy combo for the first levels without blue or alternative mana regen, and last hitting is sorta denied by the harshness of alpha strike. Mayhaps I could've started with Meki Pendant and two pots since he pushes so hard and I have MS Quints, not too sure.

I could've snared where he alpha's, but that'd imply eating it. Meditate + his 3 pots sorta outsustains me.

I'll start timing alphas next time it happens, since I wasn't sure about the CD, and try baiting them. Thanks guys =)

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Stay away from and behind your minions, you are ranged, he is not. Everytime he comes close to alpha strike you, you should be behind minions and he should have to walk through minions, try to outpush as that will allow you free harass since he can either choose to take minion damage or farm those minions in which case he can't use it on you, also when he does come close and is in minions simply snare him and walk away.

If you need to, take your jungle wraiths + wolves as that'll help you vs him.


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Swain is a ****ty pusher *sigh* I think the main issue is that you hardly see any AP Yis at all, I'll probably try and play him AP so I can understand what to do better.
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Most people don't know how to play AP Yi.
He doesn't suck late game, you just have to pick and choose where your fights take place. You have to fight AWAY from creeps. Just hover around Baron for a few.

Alpha Strike has a four second CD at max rank. Which means you can Highlander, Alpha, Meditate, Alpha, and by then you probably killed somebody so you can start the combo over again. He doesn't fall off late game, it's just most people force fights with creeps and THAT is where AP Yi gets screwed.

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Problem is some enemy champs have hard cc.
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