How the top lane is playing these days

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]There are downsides to being a blind monk.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot][quote=DuffTime] Yeah you're correct about that Jeffy. I was just laughing about what Crow said about the shroud, which has nothing to do with her strength in lane xP It does offer her a bit of safety from ganks, that's about it. Pre 6 she doesn't kill anything, you're right. But she does out harass most melee top lane champs, and she does win most hard engages with them to boot :P Then comes level 6, and she just kills mofos. [quote=Luther3000] Does Lee's E still reveal Akali, or did they remove that? [/quote] Yes it does :P Anything stealth/invis. [/quote] I might, or more probably am, a lousy Akali. But I find that the shroud gives me two distinct advantages. First the invis/slow combo that lets me get close enough to an enemy to land both q and one aa for max damage. The second is invisibility and more res that minimize minion aggro. I might be playing her all wrong but I tend to excel in lane and fall off when it comes to teamfights so against the opponents I meet I have a working way. That doesn't say much about their skills though. But I am still right in that Akali against the blind dude is a bad matchup[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I've never run it. I wonder how voyboy feels o:[/quote]

[quote=Katjoesja][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] `Urgot would win early lane because of his ability to harass with Acid Hunter. But post 6 Urgot would lose hard IMO. Oh you want to Ulti me? OK I kick you even further away from your turret and now you've gotta burn summoners if things go south. Lee's natural sustain and mobility would eventually overtake Urgot's tanky nature...Although Urgot's passive presents an interesting possibility, Lee Sin would just have an overall advantage by level 8 or 9. To succeed Urgot would need to never miss a chance to harass...As in always land Acid Charges followed by Acid Hunter spam....But if Lee was allowed t farm Urgot would be in trouble. Just my opinion.... [/quote] You don't understand, Urgot ALWAYS wins. He is like Charlie Sheen on 4 legs! Also, sarcasm. That would be it.[/quote]

[quote=ExamplePrime]Tried it Urgot CAN do ok. But a decent Lee Sin kicks Urgots ass. Urgot literally cannot harrass Lee Sin because as soon as he does Lee Sin will just get in melee range and win[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]You're doing it wrong, you run evelynn against Lee, it's insta win :P I'm pretty sure I've beat him with Olaf a few times. I'm not sure, he's usually jungle, and I rarely see him. I can see Cho being K as well.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Cho is like Riven top. He wins because people aren't exploiting the weaknesses in the kit, and they don't know the counters yet.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot][quote=DuffTime] Cho is like Riven top. He wins because people aren't exploiting the weaknesses in the kit, and they don't know the counters yet. [/quote] Which is?[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]@Crow don't push a cho and start to zone him near your tower and he will lose. I did quite good vs a lee with udyr(same farm no one got a kill), kennen(kind of a bad lee so i would need another try on that) and lux(yeah i played lux top and i did well but it is kind of a bad pick if you can't land q)[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=ExamplePrime] [quote=Temzilla] Lee Sin counter? Remember you can't "counter" an energy champ with a mana caster champ. Your options are rumble, Cho'Gath, AD carries, WW, Nunu, Udyr, Tryndamere, Riven, Dr. Mundo, Garen, Kennen, Katarina, Mordekaiser, Olaf, Wukong, and Volibear. Out of those, the one that seem reasonable are Kennen, Mordekaiser, Cho'Gath, WW, Udyr, Tryndamere, and Olaf. I don't think I've ever lost to a Lee Sin as Mordekaiser, but it would be easy to get behind i think. [/quote] Half of those champs lose to Lee Sin top :L Rumble for example I mentioned in the OP that he loses to Lee Sin. The rest I'm not so sure but when people say stand behind your creeps and dodge his Q you haven't played against a decent Lee Sin. Also GP never beats Lee Sin With his sheild he can sheild almost EVERY parley and use his bonus lifesteal to get his HP back. A wriggles or triple dorans and you can Never harrass him out of lane. Also if Lee Sin Does Power Level his Q all he has to do is W to a minion, Q you in the face, Q again then E and slow you to get away. At level 6 his burst damage is huge, he also almost never loses a 1v1 fight. Also I didn't say Shyvana was amazing top only that she counters certain lanes that cause problems. And Garen is a really bad pick top now because he gets beaten by so many champs [/quote] That's why i listed them as "Possible" no other champions would logically be able to beat him because of laning issues. Akali is the one i left out, but people like to beleive that Lee Sin counters Akali. [quote=DuffTime] There's 2 ways to be a good top lane. Sustain so you can't be killed. Burst/harass so your enemy can. As long as you've got that down, you're golden. I don't see anyone mentioning Akali, by the way. [/quote] I thought they would kill me through the internet :([/quote]