Msg I sent to #1 karma guide holder

[quote=Fox Rage][quote=Nighthawk] [quote=throatslasher] Obviously, it's a broken system, if the guides that are featured got approved by the scouts. Clearly the scouts don't know the difference between good and popular. [/quote] 'oh you wrote a lot of words, must be good'. [/quote] Yo guys, that guy over there wrote a 400 pages essay comparing dogs and cats. I'm sure he'd make a great president for our country! /Flawless logic[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]That's pretty much what it is. I found it borderline impossible to read his guide. It contradicts itself multiple times, too. It's hard to write a 20000 word novel on your opinion and not contradict yourself.[/quote]

[quote=NinjaGinge][quote=throatslasher] Look, i'm not going through this entire pile of shit again. This guide is at least ten times TOO LONG. I'm not saying long guides aren't fine, but this thing is a fucking novel. [/quote] Heck even that I don't mind so long as it's a good novel[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Well yeah, it's bad. A lot of people just don't care if it's bad and are more concerned with what it looks like/how long it is. I never said it was smart, lol :P[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I'll be honest, At least from the guide i wrote (using it as an example, NOT advertising), the most important part of the guide is about positioning - not even about items, counter-picking, or any of that mumbo jumbo. Just as an opinion, people who really, truly, want to learn a lot about the character he/she is playing, will actually take the time to read the guide, rather than just use the cheat sheet. For example, if you have read The comprehensive karma guide, you will notice a whole blurb about the importance of baiting during the lane phase with karma, and how that is one of her strongest features - odds are that the common reader would not have taken full advantage of when + how to fully use [[inner flame]]. That being said, I believe that this guide, even is its items were outdated, should be the top guide, as it really TEACHES a reader HOW TO PLAY a character, rather than give the appropriate items.[/quote]

[quote=Yukimaru]Wheres the down-rep button again, oh wait. E: I read the entire guide a long time ago, a guide is about information(not goin into if the Information are actually usefull or not cuz i alrdy forgot what was standing in there) and he was giving a lot. Design is fine, but not needed, no design at all is also bad, but there is design in it. I think a good bunch of the Mobafire people here just upvote guides because they look good, thats utterly retarded. Also a Guide is supposed to be a Guide and not some shitty pseudo wannabe "Items, Masterys, Skillsequence&Runepage" "Guide" trash thing, what utopus said is pretty true. E²: u just mad that his guide is higher voted then urs.[/quote]

[quote=BlackIceT]I can agree with Throatslasher's beef about how a guide that takes over 30 min to read with information repeating itself and the fact that it is pretty outdated and still has a rating at 94%. The cheatsheet is bad. [[Clairvoyance]] is not great anymore. Now a support needs to have [[Exhaust]] or [[Heal]] to fit in. Also that start is pretty bad. Same goes for the top [[Shyvana]] and [[Olaf]] guides. They are rated 89% and 93% respectively and the item choices for [[Shyvana]] are absolutely horrid and the skill sequence for the [[Olaf]] guide is crap too. Everyone knows that maxing [[Reckless Swing]] first over [[Undertow]] in the jungle is wrong yet it is number 1. Also the order of how to jungle [[Shyvana]] is bad too. Then goes the statement well then why don't you make a guide then? Well because it is more than likely that the guide created would NOT surpass the top guides making your efforts in vain. Same applies for the [[Karma]] guides. 94% for 40 pages of mediocrity vs 81% by a Platinum Elo Player who knows what he is talking about. I bet even some of those downvotes are because of Throatslasher's brashness. I for one downvoted "The Comprehensive Karma" and up-voted and +Scouted Throatslasher's Karma guide because it should be featured and number 1.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]I play vayne differently than the entire first page of vayne guides :x[/quote]

[quote=BlackIceT]Temzilla's input, best input NA and platinum approved.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=BlackIceT] Temzilla's input, best input NA and platinum approved. [/quote] Well, i can't give you the whole story, but it involves a cloth armor and a early dagger and brawlers gloves.[/quote]