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New Counterpick Site

Creator: Mystices July 20, 2013 4:13am

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Hey,

I launched this champion counterpick site recently and I figured it might be something that some people are interested in: [removed by mod]

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated,

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Vague information is vague as ****.

Every counter site would tell me that Kassadin counters Kat. however as Kat I have stomped more than one Kassadin, because I know how and why this is and I work around it. a good kassadin by default would work to press this advantage however he could.

Tell me WHY this advantage exists. Does this champion poke? Does X out-sustain Y? Will A be able to trade with B? a few tidbits would really help.
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Kazega wrote:

Tell me WHY this advantage exists. Does this champion poke? Does X out-sustain Y? Will A be able to trade with B? a few tidbits would really help.

Yeah, this is something that's come up a fair bit in feedback.
I agree that some kind of reasoning or discussion behind matchups would be immensely helpful and it's hopefully something that I'll get round to adding in the near future.
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Nice looking site, but there are many counter-site as this one. Adding helpful info on how counter, why counter, how to play for dont hard lose, and other things(maybe for the jungle too) would make it great.
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Nice looking site, but there are many counter-site as this one. Adding helpful info on how counter, why counter, how to play for dont hard lose, and other things(maybe for the jungle too) would make it great.

Noted for future updates -- thanks for the feedback!
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Counter information, IMO, should be based on the champion's skillset, not just "Use Hard CC", "Deny Blue Buff", etc.
For example, against Kassadin, to counter his passive, "Pick an AD champion", to counter Master Yi's R, "Pick champions with TARGETED or AOE stuns".
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Counter sites aka noon traps
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Lee Sin

Counter Information:
Outsustain, Build Armour, Destroy Wards, Hard CC, Deny, Farm Beware of Knockback

Weak to:
Pantheon, Yorick

Strong against:
Akali, and basically anything with stealth

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Who came up with this stuff?

At least make it like championselect where it says general counter or lane counter...
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Vorcia wrote:

Counter information, IMO, should be based on the champion's skillset, not just "Use Hard CC", "Deny Blue Buff", etc.
For example, against Kassadin, to counter his passive, "Pick an AD champion", to counter Master Yi's R, "Pick champions with TARGETED or AOE stuns".

I agree -- thanks for the feedback. Hopefully this is something that can be improved upon.

tehAsian wrote:

At least make it like championselect where it says general counter or lane counter...

It's safe to assume that with no description it's obviously a general guideline for general counters.
The problem with lane-specific counter voting is that nobody votes on anything but 5v5 and so the resultant data is extremely inaccurate (and hence pointless and mis-leading).
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Actually, I like your site more than Champion Select. Great work so far, looking forward to what you guys do with it! :)

+ My first suggestion would be to include the names of the abilities that we should be "wary" of. I realise that's a coding thing ("Beware of Ultimate"), but maybe you'll be able to find a work around to say "Beware of Enchanted Crystal Arrow" or whatever, for clarity.

+ With regards to the bars on either side of the champion portrait, I'd make them different colours either side. At a glance you assume the bar just keeps going from behind the portrait, and it takes a second to realise they are two different sets of stats. Even if there was a small heading above each "Role" and "Itemisation" - that'd be good.

+ With the champion abilities, I'd add pictures of the actual abilities, either as a "on hover change to x", or next to/above/below the key buttons.

+ "Weak to" sounds a little iffy. "Weak against" sounds better. Instead of "Good", maybe "Synergies"?

+ Your search bar probably should be a bit bigger. Make it the main focus, let people know that they can use it.

+ In your FAQ there's a bit of informal language regarding who owns what content. I'd recommend having a look at other fan sites and wording your copyright stuff a little better. Same thing for your disclaimer at the footer of the page (for example, MobaFire says "Copyright (c) 2009-2013" etc).

+ Lastly, don't forget your own Terms & Conditions/User Agreement/Privacy Policy stuff.

Probably the best thing about your site is how compact it is. I love seeing everything straight away; really hate having to search and scroll for things :)

Good luck with the site! Definitely something I'll recommend to newer players. I'd probably even use it myself - for those times when I'm last pick and allocated a role I don't normally play + my picks are banned and I'm not sure about the opposing champion 8D

Keep up the good work!
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