OP/UP champs and who are they?

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Keels] @duff To be fair... Singed might just be too strong. Same with Fiddlesticks. So I agree, maybe some nerfs. Morde is imba and anti-fun to 1v1 top lane, I feel that nerfhammer coming for his ass. He's not OP, it's just that he's completely not fun to play against. A pain in the ass. Orianna is just insane. She needs to be toned down on her damage to put her on pace with the other AP carries. You still suppose Olaf is OP. Duff you've been pushing this for a long time, same as Zilean. Zilean is insane, but Olaf simply won't receive any nerfs in the state he's in. He's not Op, He's pretty UP. Dangerous jungling, and I think his [[reckless swing]] needs more late game scaling. More flat damage would be OP mid game, but AD scaling low% true damage, while the more attractive of the options, is only the lesser of two evils. His passive giving him some MS would make him harder to kite, and I think that's a really good change. [/quote] Minor Olaf Buffs have been given, we'll see what it does for him. I don't think Olaf is OP I just think he's great because he counters the current CC crazed meta where people run Orianna and Amumu and all of that and let their carries bomb away for 4-5 seconds. You don't have that luxury vrs Olaf. Sure you can CC his team, but your carry can't deal damage while she's running and flashing away from a Barbarian >:) Morde got nerfed real hard. I don't think he'll even be very good anymore lol. Singed, *Shrug. He's an invincible tank and if you buy Rylai's yeah he's great but I dunno. I think he can be ignored with the correct team comp choices. If anything needs nerfing, just a slight devalue on the ult. Maybe remove 5 off of all of those numbers per level. He'd probably be sittin more cozy where he needs to be. I don't disagree that he's very strong (I play him) but I have to wonder, is he really better than Cho Gath? I think not, but there are never complaints about Cho. Singed probably just requires less skill and his style is more annoying I think so people don't like him the way he is. If you give Olaf move speed he'll just literally break the game :P It'd be like when GP got slow at first and they realized they dun fuk'd up and nerfed it 3 times consecutively lol.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]I still think Morde will be pretty good imo. Also Malphite would love some buffs, but he's not UP. It's very easy to get your lanes fed when you jungle, potential best ganker in the game.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Nighthawk] I still think Morde will be pretty good imo. Also Malphite would love some buffs, but he's not UP. It's very easy to get your lanes fed when you jungle, potential best ganker in the game. [/quote] malphite is a more unstoppable version of leona (late game), though he lacks the CC leona offers[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Thread refresh with the new round of buffs/nerfs. Morde went from slightly OP to massively UP in my eyes. Not being able to gain shield off an entire minion wave will really hurt his lane presence. Singed... Meh. Nothing notable. Shaco... Went from being way, way UP to being just about right. I hope to see him more.[/quote]

[quote=Queso][quote=Nighthawk] I still think Morde will be pretty good imo. [/quote] His laning is pathetic now without being able to generate a strong shield.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I can't even see Morde being viable now. L0L, there already match ups he lost, and his innate lack of any CC at all made him a marginal choice in most team comps, where you could have someone else who would win lane who does have CC and damage. Now he's just like... Why bother picking this guy?[/quote]