OTG's SoloQ Tier List (Patch 4.20)

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=OTGBionicArm]It's not though, if Riot is to be believed. And I have been more than reasonable with every other suggestion in the thread. I was even reasonable with Poppy until you guys kept bugging me about it. I think that she has no consistency, and that's a thing I value a lot in placement of these champions. Maybe if she didn't have [[nasus]]-syndrome, but also not have the tools to survive 25 minutes like [[nasus]] does, she'd get rated higher. Not to mention you guys have no actual basis for changing my mind other than your love for [[poppy]] and "I did good with her in bronze/silver/gold". You can do good with any champion if you really try, that doesn't just make her flaws vanish. It means you're willing to devout more time and effort to making her not suck than just playing a champion that would be way easier to climb with.[/quote] Really? I have no actual basis for changing your mind other than my love for poppy? That's one of the stupidest comments I've seen lately because I literally did not use any evidence I myself had made. You must not have read my comment at all considering I literally pointed to 3 players [b]In the Challenger/LCS[/b] scene using Poppy successfully. This has nothing to do with me at all, I haven't played or thought about Poppy in a competitive environment in a very long time. According to my match history I do have 1 poppy game on Crystal Scar 2 months ago, so clearly I must main her and care about her a lot. As well as that one ranked game I played her in season 2. I waited for an Eve rework after 1 year of her being the worst champion in the game, a Heimer rework, and a Sion rework. In fact with the Heimer rework they somewhat leaked it in July 2013...then it was released in October 2013. 3 months later. So fast. Certainly you're entitled to your opinion, I'm also entitled to mine. I would appreciate if you stopped making this about my "emotions" or whatever bullshit that is though, and actually gave some good criticism about why Poppy is so low. You can say she's a worse Nasus all you like, but the fact remains that she has become increasingly popular because of the popularity of champions like Maokai and Mundo.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][[Poppy]] sucks and is broken beyond belief at the same time. I would never put [[Poppy]] high up in any tier list because there just too many factors to account for. The right player, in the right team, during the right conditions, can absolutely wreck with her and truly abuse that part of her that makes her utterly broken. In any other case, she just... sucks.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=GrandmasterD][[Poppy]] sucks and is broken beyond belief at the same time. I would never put [[Poppy]] high up in any tier list because there just too many factors to account for. The right player, in the right team, during the right conditions, can absolutely wreck with her and truly abuse that part of her that makes her utterly broken. In any other case, she just... sucks.[/quote] I couldn't agree more. The right conditions for her are becoming more and more common with the popular top laners mostly being people she can deal with very well, however. And that's why right now she should be higher on the list.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Nighthawk][quote=GrandmasterD][[Poppy]] sucks and is broken beyond belief at the same time. I would never put [[Poppy]] high up in any tier list because there just too many factors to account for. The right player, in the right team, during the right conditions, can absolutely wreck with her and truly abuse that part of her that makes her utterly broken. In any other case, she just... sucks.[/quote] I couldn't agree more. The right conditions for her are becoming more and more common with the popular top laners mostly being people she can deal with very well, however. And that's why right now she should be higher on the list.[/quote] My point is that the champion is both useless and broken, which makes arguing about her spot on any list kind of pointless and ultimately irrelevant. There's some great arguments why she should be high up the list and there are some solid arguments on why she should be in the trash tier. Neither side is really wrong on this and it all depends on the list constructor's point of view.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]So, basically, [[poppy]] needs her own tier and considered: "Hard to place"[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=NicknameMy]So, basically, [[poppy]] needs her own tier and considered: "Hard to place"[/quote] No, you misunderstand my point. [[Poppy]] is easily placed, it just depends on your own personal criteria and point of view. There's arguments why she should be high up, and arguments why she should be at the bottom. Both arguments are perfectly reasonable and logical, thus there's nothing wrong with either. tl;dr One can place [[Poppy]] either high or low, depending on what they value and, thus, how they back it up.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I think Poppy is easily dumpstered, thus inconsistent and bad for soloq. I could give a crap less if people played her in LCS. This is a soloq tier list. However, since I've asked about 6 fucking times to shut the hell up about [[poppy]], here you go Poppy fans. "Revision 5: Poppy has been removed from the tier list. Please use your imagination to place her on the list as you see necessary. Do not ask about her. She's already whatever your heart desires" There. She's top tier in your hearts and that's all that matters.[/quote]

[quote=R4GE]Atleast she's in the Tier list, so stfu and be happy.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=OTGBionicArm]"Revision 5: Poppy has been removed from the tier list. Please use your imagination to place her on the list as you see necessary. Do not ask about her. She's already whatever your heart desires" [/quote] “PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT As of this moment, until further notice, [[Poppy]] has been removed from the tier list. Please, refer to your imagination for further information on where she should be placed on the tier list in case you deem this as necessary. Do not directly ask about her, but instead consult your cardiologist for more detailed information regarding this matter.” fix'd[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Mind otg's definitions, people. Poppy is tier 3 because she has obvious but manageable flaws. If she turns into a safer pick, she could be considered as a candidate for a tier 2 champion. Where she currently stands, she is considered too inconsistent to be a tier 2 champion. People can still play her well, but her early game success varies too much to be a tier 2 champion[/quote]