Removal of Crit Masteries?

[quote=NicknameMy][url]http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/theorycrafting/my-crit-rework-numbers-for-former-items-abilities-etc-10687[/url][/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=NicknameMy] I already posted the best way to get out of crit, riot should listen to that.^^ [/quote] The day Riot does that, we're gonna get a lot of OP stuff bro :P[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, so nothing changes to now.^^ BTW: The counterpart to this has been already created, look at [[ninja tabi]]. And you know, that I suggested that before. But that stat should be also avaiable in the defense mastery tree(Replace that useless [[evasion]]), maybe on [[phantom dancer]] or more items.[/quote]

[quote=Anandre][quote=Yukimaru]The crit wasnt free cuz u also need to decide do i take Critmastery or Mastery XY? [/quote] What else are you going to take? 4 of the remaining choices are AP masteries, not suitable for AD (most CDs are already pretty low and a lot of damage is from AAs, so CDR is fairly pointless). Havoc adds a whole 1.5 damage when you do 100 damage (late-game when I crit for 750, it adds ~11 damage, big whoop), Demolitionist adds nothing to team fights or duels, and Butcher isn't worth taking over increased crit chance. So no, there isn't a decision there. For any AD carry, crit chance was the only choice.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=Pølsemanden] [quote=DuffTime] Don't see why or how that could be the case. [/quote] Trynd's kit is based around crit. But he rushes zeal(after vamp scepter) and has a lot of natural crit. 1 gp parrley that crits, can basically force a B, just because there is the chance his next parrley crits again, ultimately resulting in that a flash ignite will be the end of u. Yeah, 4% crit on trynd is nice. And he build his kit around crit, BUT he builds a phantom dancer, like allways. :Tryndamere, 35% from passive+25%from Infinity edge+30% from phantom dancer. that's 90% crit chance. Let's say u add 4% to that, that's a relative increase of:4,5'ish percent. , if u build atmas as well, that's 108%(wasting an 8%) I personally only build atmas(18%)+tri-force(15%)+IE(25%)=58% for crit on GP, atmas and tri-force being situational. 4% is now a relative increase of something like: 7'ish percent. With some extra passive AD and extra AD from parrley. I believe GP's kit synergizes just as well with crit as trynds does. 4,5% relative increase end-game vs. 7% relative increase endgame. Add to that at early game, the relative increase is EVEN farther apart. [/quote] -Vamp Scepter -Boots -Brutalizer -IE -Ghost Blade -Blood Thirster -Atmas -Either PD or Defensive item That's how I build Tryn...Everyone gets so hung up on rushing Zeal neglecting the fact that early ArP is a great way to ensure that when you crit you hit hard, and counter whatever early game counterbuilding the enemy team has started...Just my 2 cents.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]i rush zeal after T1 boots for the exact same reason i rush zeal as Ashe/Tristana/any ie-building character, cuz it gives u more MS than upgrading to T2 Boots, gives u same'ish amount of AS, and gives crit upon that.[/quote]

[quote=Crazy Smurf]I used to think it's balanced, then I took a [[Parrley]] to the knee.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=Pølsemanden] i rush zeal after T1 boots for the exact same reason i rush zeal as Ashe/Tristana/any ie-building character, cuz it gives u more MS than upgrading to T2 Boots, gives u same'ish amount of AS, and gives crit upon that. [/quote] Brutalizer gives you Damage/ArP/CDR versus Zeals MS/AS/CrC 10 or 12 arp from runes +15 ArP from Brutalizer you're practically hitting squishy champs for true damage. Tryn already gets passive CrC as he gains Fury; getting Zeal gives you an abundance of a stat you already have enough of (for early game). Factor in getting IE as your third item and you're right around 60% CrC with a good chunk of damage to make your Crits matter....Get ghostblade and now you have an AS/MS steroid with CrC/ArP built in... But I play Tryn differently than most people now I guess :/[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]i just feel that MS is a much too important stat on trynda to have it on a Active. But i know for a fact Ghostblade is strong on him. But when ppl stack armour, shit's gon be getting real bad for ya matie..[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Ms is improtant I agree, but Tryn has a solid slow. It's preference I suppose, but I feel the earlier I have ArP the more effective I can be mid game... BoT: This loss of 4% CrC is negligible. Now we get MOAR DAMAGE[/quote]