Season 1 Comes to an End

[quote=Searz][quote=Slizer002] [quote=Searz] The ult change was good. It should NOT be reverted.. Her shield should be nerfed. I think mana cost would be the best area to nerf it in to avoid invulnerability to enemy harass. I'd put mana cost at 50/60/70/80/90 from 50 at all ranks. A buff to shielding range would be nice too (to make supporting easier). I think 750 from 600 would be good.[/quote] This is all uneeded if you think about it, because the scaling on shield isn't dramatically high it isn't all too powerful lategame. For the laning phase, simply put someone who does physical damage up against her ^^ And a good Rumble/Morde can straight up beat her if player right aswell - She is fine now, not OP but strong :)[/quote] l0l, u bad.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Morgana is currently a very strong laner. Idk about her being OP, as I don't see any good Morgana's. She seems pretty strong right now though.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Seems to me like people are hopping on the Morgana bandwagon just like they did for Morde and Rumble (EU) and Lee Sin and every other flavor of the month champion. *Shrug. I've beat Morgana in lane with Jarvan. Can't speak for the skill of the player but I'm not blown away by the OP Godliness of Morg yet. Calling people bad because they don't agree with your analysis is silly. They could turn around and call you bad for not agreeing with their analysis just as easily.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=DuffTime] Seems to me like people are hopping on the Morgana bandwagon just like they did for Morde and Rumble (EU) and Lee Sin and every other flavor of the month champion. *Shrug. I've beat Morgana in lane with Jarvan. Can't speak for the skill of the player but I'm not blown away by the OP Godliness of Morg yet. Calling people bad because they don't agree with your analysis is silly. They could turn around and call you bad for not agreeing with their analysis just as easily. [/quote] Same pretty much...she's semi annoying on a team with tons of CC just cause of her kit, but that's not OP and it's your own fault really... I always win lanes and games when I play against Morg, so w/e.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Mordekaiser and Rumble are far from as OP as Morg. I "jumped" on Morg because she's a caster and I like casters. Why is Morg OP? Put her against ANY AP carry and you WILL 100% win unless you suck. You're also ungankable.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Does that make her OP or does that mean people are too dumb to put Caitlyn mid against her and deviate from the Metagame that the high Elo players put out there for them? People are using her to counter the meta game. That's why she feels so strong. Why not just turn around and counter her right back?[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Morde still does well against her, Caitlyn would just flat out dominate. I'm pretty sure Kass would do well, but never played him so idk. Maybe Lux would do ok? I believe Sivir would do well too, i've countered her as Sivir pretty well when I actually go mid >.> Maybe Cass? Cass is super strong early, idk. I think I saw a Karma own Morg mid in high elo before.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]You'd want to pick AD's. Caitlyn. Gangplank. Champions like them should do just fine against her, but Cait would be easy win. Pantheon mid in my head would probably do fairly well on her if he's aggresive early. If he lets her get out of control then he'll lose for free. I can see Renekton doing well. I can see Talon absolutely crushing her face. I can see Urgot absolutely dominating her as well. The spellshield wouldn't be enough in my mind. I think her hardest counters mid would probably be Urgot and Caitlyn, and in a solo lane talon as well. I can imagine a good Sivir doing well against her also.[/quote]

[quote=Slizer002][quote=Searz] Mordekaiser and Rumble are far from as OP as Morg. I "jumped" on Morg because she's a caster and I like casters. Why is Morg OP? Put her against ANY AP carry and you WILL 100% win unless you suck. You're also ungankable. [/quote] You are just bad for not trading with your AD carry or Offtanky guy then + She isn't ungankable, just harder to gank ^^[/quote]

[quote=Searz]^Unless she makes a mistake she IS UNGANKABLE. Kass and Cass can't handle her. You'll want a ranged caster that can lasthit well, but she always wins against casters. Having your AP carry bot lane will almost certainly cripple him for mid game. He'll be underleveled and casters don't handle that well compared to AD carries who just need farm. You might be able to stick Panth/Cait/Urgot or some other strong AD mid and make your AP carry go top, with a tank jungler, but that requires a very specific lineup and might not be all that good.[/quote]