Shyvana patch, your thoughts?

[quote=Temzilla]You can pull the "He's not OP because he's an assassin" thing on Talon, but i would immediately shut you down with "But he can farm, and all of his moves are AoE, so he's automatically better than every other assassin in the game.". Talon's Damage isn't his problem, it's his AoE. If rake was a point-click, and only hit his target, and Ulti did maximum damage but only to one target, then he would be a little bit UP honestly. [quote=DuffTime] There's a bazillion number of gear combos better than Trinity rush on Nasus >:P Wriggles, Warmogg's, and FH are all among these items. An early Sheen is cute though if you wanna be the trololo Q damage guy >:P [/quote] I thought early Sheen+CDR boots was to avoid leveling Q until last. p..p[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Just all depends on the lane. If you're winning, I say always level Q, stacking the bonus dmg faster is cool. If you're not, and your opponent is an auto attacker, level W, if you're getting trashed and you literally cannot farm (This happens a lot to Nasus) then you may have to level E.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Temzilla: You always max [[Siphoning Strike]] first. Always. Raising [[Spirit Fire]] first is stupid. You want to be using Q to last-hit more then half the creeps, not pushing the lane. That's 'Nasus 101' for anybody who doesn't want to be a nobody. :P[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]This is another example of JunSupport commenting on that which he does not understand even on a basic level.[/quote]

[quote=Babit]I agree with Jun on this one. Level q faster for CDR if nothing else. L2winlane with nasus. Before you know it you smack people for 500 dmg a hit, and take 1/8th of a turret with 1 q at 15 min.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Anybody who thinks Nasus can win all lanes by leveling Q simply needs to 1v1 me in some custom games. This is not debatable, Nasus cannot win all 1v1 solo top match ups with Q. He just can't.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]^^ This is called adjusting to the situation. I'd think [[Jax]] vs [[Nasus]] top could be a nice example of why leveling Q won't win the day 100% of the time.....Jax won't just let you farm, and if you try to attack him, he'll probably just dodge and then [[Empower]]+[[Leap Strike]]+[[Counter Strike]] huehuehuehue. Gotta love that.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Mmhmm. Olaf? Good FUCKING luck beating Olaf with a max rank Q Nasus right now. Irelia? LOL'D. HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR TRUE DAMAGE SANDWICH, YOU KNOW, THE ONE YOU COULD HAVE AVOIDED BY LEVELING W? There's a lot of champ match ups in the solo lane that will make you look like a jack ass if you power level Q. Sometimes you simply do not have the luxury of leveling Q ASAP to win the lane.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288]Glad they nerf'd Talon, he snowballed way to hard.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Now he's dead though. Those nerfs were MASSIVEEE~[/quote]