soo guys, "The hexdrinker"

[quote=Pølsemanden]Pretty much trying to deny what ppl tell me, and tell them that wriggles is a overrated choice. But i do understand how strong wits end is, and it is probably one of the strongest and most cost-effective items in the game. Just trying to do some sceptical thinking on other ppl's views.[/quote]

[quote=UknowsI]While we are on the topic of Hexdrinker, does anyone use it on Poppy? To me, it would seem like Poppy is the person who would have the best synergy with the hexdrinker shield. It doesn't increase her current health (or does it?) which makes it easier for her passive to kick in, and the shield is already given when she has low health which is when her passive is the strongest. With a 2000 HP Poppy, the shield will pop at 600 HP and reduce any damage above 60 damage by 50%. Against heavy nukers, it will practically make her shield twice as strong.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Also before ppl neglect it: It says kaching when shield goes on![/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Kaching the whole game for anyone who buys a real MR item. If you dont wanna listen to others dont ask... @UknowsI Try it, sounds legit. Actually I found Poppy's passive to be a funny thing. It seems like it will work better the less armor/mr you have, since it will be calculated after the reduction? Get yourself hp/5 or leech and items with a shield... Won't work, but sounds funny nevertheless.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Good early game item vs ap top/ double Ap kind of falls of later in the game as it is a flat shild.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Pølsemanden] So if u say that irelia scales poorly with ad, that means she scales poorly with lifesteal, amirite? Thus making wriggles a pretty darn crappy choice on her. Amirite? [/quote] Wriggles gives Life steal, wards, and very importantly, armor! The AD is a nice bonus for engages. [quote=Pølsemanden] Also before ppl neglect it: It says kaching when shield goes on! [/quote] Game broken. Hex es best.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Pølsemanden] [quote=DuffTime] No that items is garbage. And besides, Wit's end is fucking amazing on Irelia so why not go with the item that doesn't suck? :P [/quote] Dufftime.. Never be too one-sided about a champion. Irelia has semi-good AD-scalings. Look at [[hexdrinker]] now back at [[wriggle's lantern]] Now backt at [[hexdrinker]].. See, stats are actually quite good if we compare it to one of the most cost-effective items in the game. This is not something i do everygame.. but i think it's viable against squishy enemies. [/quote] Wriggles is actually pretty expensive.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse][quote=Temzilla] Wriggles is actually pretty expensive. [/quote] Hwuhaaaaaaaat?? 3 AD more than 2 Swords, 6 armor short for 2 Cloths, 3% more life steal than vampire... Even if it will loose some value, let's just say the 3 AD + 3% Lifesteal make up for the 6 armor: 2x415+2x300+450= 1880g value only for base stats, while full Wriggle's Lantern is 1600. IMO that's pretty damn cheap if you add both extra effects to that, like 75g every 3 mins as long as the game lasts...[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Darcurse] [quote=Temzilla] Wriggles is actually pretty expensive. [/quote] Hwuhaaaaaaaat?? 3 AD more than 2 Swords, 6 armor short for 2 Cloths, 3% more life steal than vampire... Even if it will loose some value, let's just say the 3 AD + 3% Lifesteal make up for the 6 armor: 2x415+2x300+450= 1880g value only for base stats, while full Wriggle's Lantern is 1600. IMO that's pretty damn cheap if you add both extra effects to that, like 75g every 3 mins as long as the game lasts... [/quote] B.F. Sword is 1650 and gives 45ad, that's 36.66g/ad Chain Vest is 700, and gives 45 armor, that's 15.566g/armor Vamp Scepter is 450g, and gives 12% Lifesteal, that's 37.5g/lifesteal. This gives Wriggles a gold cost of 843.333+466.8+=562.5, that's 1872g. Now... Let's look at Wit's End shall we? 42 ad effectively, 40 attack speed, 50 mr. (negatron = 15.416 g/mr) Wit's End should cost 1540 + 1050 + 770 = 3360g. Wriggles is expensive compared to other completed items. You pay out the butt for the proc and the wards.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]42 ad effectively... really? reallly? since when did on-hit effects crit. Also, burst mostly hits u BEFORE u have 50 mr from it.. U're overrating this item soo much it's not even funny.[/quote]