Trynd Remake

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Soronto] Jungling with Trynd now is sooo easy, he can clear all camps really fast and he still hits like a truck! [/quote] As much as I hate to burst your bubble, he cleared the jungle faster and had MUCH more sustainability before the patch... All this did for his jungle was make him a TINY bit less luck based.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=Soronto] OMAHGAWD, new Tryndamere is SO FUCKING AWESOME!! Just played 2 games with him, tried jungle. My runes are armor pen reds, attack speed yellows and blues and flat hp quints (I would buy armor pen quints, but I prefer to buy champions:P) And... god... I start with Vampiric Scepter. Jungling with Trynd now is sooo easy, he can clear all camps really fast and he still hits like a truck! In first game I scored a quadra kill (it would be a penta, but my friend stole it by accident:/). [img]http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7183/beztytuu2dx.jpg[/img] So... YES YES YES, new Trynda FTW!! [/quote] [img]http://i55.tinypic.com/1z1u1k6.jpg[/img][/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I see what ya did tha[/quote]

[quote=Apotheosis]You're all out of your godamn minds.[/quote]

[quote=Soronto]WoW, Toshabi, you are so cool... let me bow before you and worship you as my master... -_-[/quote]

[quote=Atarios][quote=Apotheosis] You're all out of your godamn minds. [/quote] haha, what do you mean? You dont like the remake?[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]It screwed up his jungling royally, imo. He used to completely dominate after the initial few levels. After level 5 you could literally do anything in the jungle whilst gaining half of your health back each pack. Only thing this improved is his laning, they nerfed his jungling and his late game.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]To me it's a slightly less worrysome jungle however, I used to hit level 3 by 2-3minute mark and go gank lanes...Now I'm hitting level 3 at the 3:20 mark and it feels a lot slower. But because I won't kill myself on spinning slashes it's less hectic. His laning still sucks ass. Everyone goes on about the better sustain...1 They nerfed his heal (moreso late game) the fact of the matter is. TO get Tryn to full stacks of BL it used to take ~4 crits which with my build and early items I had 4 crits within 8 swings or less. NOW it takes AT LEAST 10 swings and those all have to crit or kill to get me 10 fury....Reg swings net me 5 fury...If I don't crit it will take 20 swings to reach FULL fury for the most effective heal I can get at rank 1...Tryn now has no base crit chance THUS the likelihood of critting is extremely low low CrC means I won't get that needed 10 Fury to turn my craptastic heal into a less craptastic one. Anyone with half a brain seeing a Tryn in lane should HARASS THE FUCK OUT OF HIM...He wants to come in and try to build fury? Well I'm just going to attack him and force him back. No hitting creeps=no fury= no heal=Tryn has to GTFO or get tower dove... They did nothing except make his early game Crits suck ass, his non crits suck less, his sustain is raped, his late game is no longer "Godlike" status, it's average MAYBE slightly above average...1200 Damage crits nope, don't have those anymore unless I build that second BT (used to only need 1 BT and I'd be popping 1k-1200 damage crits) You effectively do 400 less damage late game than you used to because of the removal of the Crit Damage multiplier on BL. So he's slightly less unstable early game if you jungle, sucks more when you lane, and his late game no longer all that impressive....The big decider between going Tryn or Xin/Udyr was because Tryn's late game (if you felt confident you could get there) was above any other melee carry, but his early game was a gamble...Now his late game is pretty much out of the equation, the logical choice to play would be Xin or Udyr, solid AD champs that brought a lot to team fights. The fun choice was Tryn, but now his fun is kinda gone...So why play him? I mean I still will, I need to to try to figure out some way to put the fun back into him so that's why I'll keep playing.... TL;DR- Tryn still pubstomps, his higher ELO play was kinda sunk...[/quote]

[quote=BigDaddyPedro][quote=Xenasis] It screwed up his jungling royally, imo. He used to completely dominate after the initial few levels. After level 5 you could literally do anything in the jungle whilst gaining half of your health back each pack. Only thing this improved is his laning, they nerfed his jungling and his late game. [/quote] I disagree, his jungling is now way way way better early on. Do you know how easy it is to mess up his jungleing pre patch? Take his wraiths and steal his red (with your team for the red) and he will become underleveled, if he dares enter your jungle early on (1-3) he would die if he gets caught. Idk in my opinion trynda is way better in the jungle[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=BigDaddyPedro] I disagree, his jungling is now way way way better early on. Do you know how easy it is to mess up his jungleing pre patch? Take his wraiths and steal his red (with your team for the red) and he will become underleveled, if he dares enter your jungle early on (1-3) he would die if he gets caught. Idk in my opinion trynda is way better in the jungle [/quote] Do not argue with the master of jungling, sir! All hail Xenasis. So that this post actually has a point: just looking at the numbers it seems like a nerf to me. I don't play Trynda and haven't seen one ingame yet though.[/quote]