Welcome to elo hell, leave all your logic at...

[quote=Crows foot][quote=Wintermond] Get your ass out of Elo Hell by duo queue or on your own. -Don't give a fuck on your Team, PLAY CARRIES NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO. -Jungler is also a great way to win games since you will have a great influence on all lanes and the enemy jungler. -DONT RELY ON YOUR TEAM, ONLY ON YOURSELF. TAKE ALL KILLS AND ALL LASTHITS. BE SELFISH. -Play FOTM Champs! Akali, Morgana, Lee Sin, Singed and Kog'Maw are Free Elo at the moment if you get them and know how to play them, especially in low elo. -DUO QUEUE -DUO QUEUE -DUO QUEUE And the most important part: -see your own mistakes. If you lose a lane it's YOUR fault. If you die in a Teamfight it's YOUR fault. And then fix your mistakes. When you are ~1,6k you can start relying on your Team because they know what the fuck to do in most cases. [/quote] Why not just go support Maokai? ;p[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Crows foot] Why not just go support Maokai? ;p [/quote] Lol'd. You're going to get that a lot from now on Winter. :P[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot][quote=Luther3000] [quote=Crows foot] Why not just go support Maokai? ;p [/quote] Lol'd. You're going to get that a lot from now on Winter. :P [/quote] Couldn't help myself ;) But seriously, wintermonds advice is good.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Haters be hatin'. :q[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I love that you bitch at the support for not warding when you could have been buying a ward or two every back if you needed one. Seriously. 75 gold is like... 3 creeps... It's not going to kill you.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=Lugignaf] I love that you bitch at the support for not warding when you could have been buying a ward or two every back if you needed one. Seriously. 75 gold is like... 3 creeps... It's not going to kill you. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=orochinagi]I like when people complain about wards when they don't buy a single ward themselves... And qft what winter and lugignaf said...[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I agree that all players should buy wards, not just supports. Most high Elo teams will agree.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice][quote=DuffTime] I agree that all players should buy wards, not just supports. Most high Elo teams will agree. [/quote] Not really. Early game, it's a given that you should buy a ward for your lane. Top should provide a ward for themselves, mid should put a ward on one side, the jungler should put a ward on the other side, and bot should provide their own ward. After the laning phase however, the job of warding should belong almost exclusively to the support, with some help from the jungler. The supports has his gp5, and the sole point of that is to have enough money to constantly lay down wards. Maybe in solo queue, you should buy wards late game if your support is not doing their job, but the idea of "splitting the cost" is just wrong. Ward costs add up, it's not like it's "only 75 gold". That cost adds up and carries need their items and farm in order to carry.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=EvilDice] Maybe in solo queue, you should buy wards late game if your support is not doing their job, but the idea of "splitting the cost" is just wrong. Ward costs add up, it's not like it's "only 75 gold". That cost adds up and carries need their items and farm in order to carry. [/quote] Yea... that's what I have to do every game. No matter what role I play. Stupid soloqq... <_< But, yea. 75 gold on an AP carry is nothing and, they can do some heavy warding once they get their farm on late game IMO.[/quote]