Why do ppl play maokai when they can play:

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I dun good?[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Quess my opinion's are flawed. I just don't seem to get how they're non comparable: singed: damage;q cc;wc Ulty; OMG-UNSTOPPABLE maokai: damage;e cc;qw Ulty; OMG well not really, but aoe-counter. The OOOOONLY aspect of which i can see a big difference in their kit/role is: maokai counters aoe, singed doesn't Singed has more damage, they're equally equipped with cc, and singed is more tanky due to his passive and ulty. Also singed can't be harrassed as much as mao in thar jungle, is less mana hungry, and clears big camps faster/easier, singed can efficiently build a WOTA. And i honestly believe their ganks are of equal standing. post-6 singed is better; DEM TOWERDIVES! U will have ghost up 2 times before 6 so u should at least be having 2'ish kills pre-6. Maokai will maybe have 2(mostly 1) flashes pre-6(don't say but maokai can run ghost too cuz we both now, he can't use ghost for anything really..... Singed can run past wards in the speed of light if it's top/bot bush warded. I just think that singed excels in every single aspect with the exception of two things(aoe-counter, small camp clears).[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Just to some it up for you Maokai BRINGS MORE UTITLITY FOR THE TEAM. MORE UTITLITY. This does not mean he does a lot of dmg or can't be counter jungled but he has very good EARLY ganks and is very usfull late game. Sure Singed is quite fast in the jungel and also has awsm ganks but only if he has ghost and/or his ulti up and they have a much longer CD then maokais snare. I think you want to see something what is not there. They are both totaly diffrent picks and in and premade team a maokai can just shine more then a signed. He is strong but so is maokai so let ppl pick what they want and you pick him and own them.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=LaronX] Just to some it up for you Maokai BRINGS MORE UTITLITY FOR THE TEAM. MORE UTITLITY. This does not mean he does a lot of dmg or can't be counter jungled but he has very good EARLY ganks and is very usfull late game. Sure Singed is quite fast in the jungel and also has awsm ganks but only if he has ghost and/or his ulti up and they have a much longer CD then maokais snare. I think you want to see something what is not there. They are both totaly diffrent picks and in and premade team a maokai can just shine more then a signed. He is strong but so is maokai so let ppl pick what they want and you pick him and own them. [/quote] > implying EG is not premade. > implying singed can't gank without ghost/ult. I don't see how he brings more than only a bit lil bit more utility(through his ulty). Singed has a slow on "w" AND a slow on "q" after rylais. that shit is pretty affective dude... Maokai is not gonna be able to kill anyone on a lane single handedly, that's just like almost impossible.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Ehm... you know when he did play jungel singed and also how parnoid lanes got after the aggassive gameplay of M5 that changed the meta? Singed is no rammus that just can run over a ward and gank with nothing then a short cd skill. He has to burn long cd to do so yes he can also gank without it but it won't be as effektiv by far. Udyr ganks also can be quite scary if he flash but still i would not call udyr a good ganker even though he can gank without flash. Singed is a pick where you have to have lanes without good escape moves. vs many mid he has quite a hard time to gank same for some bot lanes(sivir graves vayne). while maokai can do near tower ganks and still be good and don't the enemy even reach their tower a bit like ali.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, but I think, lategame [[singed]] is actually more gamebraking. If he gets 1 [[fling]] of the carry, he is dead and the teamfight is over before started. And if you get for example [[rod of ages]]+[[rylai's crystal scepter]], your [[posion trail]] deals massive AoE dmg, even if the enemy is not dumb and chase you. The trick is, run around them all the time and poop into the escape ways. And finally, the AoE slow. It could be on the same level like a ulti actually. If you get 2 or more people in it, at least 1 carry, you can completly crush the enemy team. Also it is nice if you [[fling]] s.b. back into [[mega adhesive]]. Because of that lategame which is as gamebraking as [[amumu]] is, maybe even more, I think [[singed]] is the better teamfighter.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]ohh yeah.. singed is not as good against dash-mids, but no flash-mao can't do much against thoose either.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]The funniest thing with [[singed]], if you [[fling]] s.b. while he tries to jump away, the spell is burned and he is still [[fling]]ed.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]Who the fuck is "s.b."?[/quote]

[quote=Zell][quote=Temzilla] Who the fuck is "s.b."? [/quote] Somebody. See, I'm down with the youth yoyo dude![/quote]