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Sheep Votes, worse then Troll Votes: Downvotes...

Creator: JunSupport March 22, 2011 12:35pm
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@CBandicoot: I don't understand what you're asking? What's wrong with Vet recommendations?
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...Seriously?

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I'm not saying that. I just don't think it's fair that veterans have a larger influence on a guide's popularity than someone else who has the same amount of experience...or any other person in general.



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JunSupport wrote:

Possible Fixes:


1. Anonymous comments.
By giving users an option to comment anonymously, we can allow the troll votes, and true down-votes to freely return. This would curb down the now-existing positive-rating inflation.

2. Veteran Comment-Links over Recommendation Badges.
My own idea: Instead of badges, all guides with veteran comments should have a small ( ! ) icon where the recommendation badge is.
The icon would link/pop-up a list of the veterans that voted+commented on the guide, with their pictures linking to their first comment on the guide.
Now what can this do?
  • Continue to draw attention to Good veteran viewed guides.
  • Allow users to see the reasoning behind veteran votes, for improved judgments.
  • Prevent truly bad guides from being upvoted when downvoted by a veteran.
  • Spread out the ridiculous amount of attention drawn by a single vet-badge count, and lower the "sheep-voting" that happens.

Finally got around to reading this and I must say that I really like these ideas.

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3. No Guide-Publishing for the first 4~5 days of a new champion's release.
Why: New champion releases or remakes are always a magnet for voting inflation.

I don't like this tho. I think it's fine with the locked votes. You might want to share an idea and ask others about it.

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Searz wrote:


I don't like this tho. I think it's fine with the locked votes. You might want to share an idea and ask others about it.

Why don't you like this? On the day a champion is released, nobody has "mastered" it. I see no point in sharing a guide if you haven't even mastered the champion. I even remember people writing a guide before the champion was released (Sona). It can't be called a guide if the author doesn't have any knowledge to pass on.
Also, like you saw during the recent release of Nocturne, dozens of guides appeared at once, leaving the majority of them unrated and barely read.
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There will always be loads of builds for new champions. Especially bad builds. The new feature toned the spam downvoting down and I think that's as far as we're gonna get without directing traffic to other sites.
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@CBandicoot: I still don't understand why it matters? vet recs. have been around since before this new system.
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It doesn't matter how long they've been around, Adonikam. The effect is noticable.
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Maybe because Vets want them to be noticed?

EDIT: it seems like you think us Vets can't tell a good guide from a bad guide

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No. It seems like you still don't understand what I wrote...and it's not going to get any clearer. Bye.
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CBandicoot wrote:

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No. It seems like you still don't understand what I wrote...and it's not going to get any clearer. Bye.


It seems to me like he does understand. You're saying that Vet recommendations shouldn't exist, since they have too much of an impact, from what I'm understanding. I completely disagree, since most vets actually know what they're talking about, and the whole point is to get the guide more noticed. Tell me if I'm wrong, but this is what I gather from your posts.


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