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[quote=omagma]The only "tricky" part of playing Nunu, is placement of his ult, and adjusting to a more "support jungle" style. He have the same difficulty curve as other junglers (which is not high right now)[/quote]

[quote=Freddy Shopan]Not so much difficult to play as much as he is difficult to play effectively.[/quote]

[quote=omagma]Touche[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Freddy Shopan] The only real issue with nunu is that he's really hard to play. Not in the sense that his abilities are hard, but in the sense that he falls off so bad late game. You need to have a very good understanding of the jungle so you can screw up their jungler. I doubt there are any good nunus in this patch atm. He just takes a lot of knowledge. [/quote] Oddone destroys with him. Blood Boil, combined with ice ball, and his ulti, he can do cool stuff late game. But, yeah, if he falls behind he does really bad.[/quote]

[quote=Freddy Shopan]The Oddone is a reeeally good jungler. I was trying to say that his jungle timings could be off because of all the changes in speed in junglers. But still, I take back what I said. All dem pros probably already have all those jungle speeds figured out by now. I always forget that they play a lot more than I do haha. Regardless, though, you will probably find yourself being a bit weak late-game if you play nunu is what I'm trying to say.[/quote]

[quote=Zell][quote=DuffTime] [quote=Zell] Kind of misleading, no? [/quote] Personally I think he is top 5, and he's certainly MY best jungler. I may be biased, but I've never had a better jungle than Cho. So no I don't think it's misleading. While I don't think he is -the best- he is certainly the best jungler that nobody is going to tell a player about.[/quote] Maokai, next. [quote=DuffTime]No, not at all. Not even remotely close to why he's a good jungler. I don't [b]ever[/b]even set a foot in the enemy jungle.[/quote] That's reassuring to know... [quote=DuffTime]Well now I don't care about what you have to say about Cho anymore since it's suddenly apparent you don't understand why he's good at it :P[/quote] Pretty narrow-minded view, never once claimed that was his only contributions nor his main ones but was simply replying back to said post and restating that he does excel in these once very important aspects. Ah, never-mind just saw where your from.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Maokai, bandwagonner. Another example of a player who just jumps on what's working and doesn't think for himself :P There's a plethora of great junglers out there. Cho, Udyr, Maokai, Rammus, Amumu, Shyvana, Nocturne, just to name a few. And you wanna come and try to start something because I said Cho is one of the best junglers nobody is going to mention, and try to argue the points being made by other people and say that's why he's not a good jungler. Yet, they aren't the ones who jungle him on a regular basis, so they probably don't know as well as I do what makes him such a great jungler. Silly willy, you're the narrow minded one. Cho's strengths in jungle; 1; Clear speed. It's epic. 2; Gank power. Amazing, land your pop ups and collect killing spree. 3; Objective control. The ultimate + Smite = how are you possibly gonna fuck this up?[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Gank power duff, are u serious? I Think cho's ganks are mediocre at best. Maybe a slight buff after red buff nerf. But still very bad![/quote]

[quote=Zell][quote=DuffTime] Maokai, bandwagonner.[/quote] Maokai was has been a good jungler for awhile just cause you're possibly late on the scene doesn't mean he wasn't. His popularity has taken a slight peak recently granted. [quote=DuffTime]Another example of a player who just jumps on what's working and doesn't think for himself :P[/quote] I'll just presume that wasn't directed to me. [quote=DuffTime]1; Clear speed. It's epic.[/quote] Its more or less common knowledge that Cho'Gath can clear small camps rather quickly thus "AoE" capable junglers haven been able to reel in the benefits from the decrease spawn timers more so. However, there is still many junglers who can clear camps quickly while exceeding better at other areas. [quote=DuffTime]2; Gank power. [u][b]Amazing[/b][/u], land your pop ups and collect killing spree.[/quote] I honestly didn't know what to make of this sentence first time I read it. What kind of numb-skulls have you been facing…? Any competent player will be warding ganking routes somewhat early in order to attempt to deny any ganks from the jungle hence one of the reasons why such junglers such as: Lee Sin, Udyr, Nocturne, Shaco etc exceed in their ganking capability since they can initiate onto said lane targets swiftly in quick accession. Sure, Cho’gath can deny the escape route for like… one second? That or they will flash over it if you’re lucky enough to have caught them overextending like mad. Unless you’re only comparing his ganking ability to these which would be considered “rare” which you shouldn’t be. Really, just grossly exaggerated. [quote=DuffTime]3; Objective control. The ultimate + Smite = how are you possibly gonna fuck this up? [/quote] He can secure objectives rather well on par with most junglers I'll give you that but his stealing ability not so much. Feast still has a slight delay, I'm aware that you can "flash" out of it by whatever means but I do wonder if you can interrupt it through pulls and far knock-backs [haven't tested] - whatever the case its irrelevant. Cho'gath has to be in melee-range in order to Feast making his stealing ability somewhat sub-par to lets say Lee Sin. I mentioned before about Nunu in comparison to Cho'gath. Lastly, although it is likely that said people don't jungle with him on a regular basis how exactly do you know this? Just comes of as a tad arrogant (don't think it was intended though). Lastly, while I don't disagree with you regarding Cho'gath being underestimated and as previously said in another post such topics are always subjective - nevertheless I don't think such words as "best" should be used so lightly.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]lol? Cho is a much better stealer then Lee... You realise people build Cho as a tanky dps for a reason right... Cho's ganks are a lot harder to avoid then you think... He's not on par with Nocturne, Rammus, Maokai, and Shaco, but he's up there. btw I don't believe you can flash out of it unless your timing is PERFECT. One of the best junglers no one is going to mention is Nasus trololol :P[/quote]