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minus value of armor and magic resist

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Does it possible, to put with items and runes armor or magic resist into minus value, or it stops on 0? Is there any limit of magic and armor penetration?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Rhollback » March 22, 2013 7:40pm | Report
*Is it possible.

And from what I understand, flat penetration can never make it fall below 0, and if you somehow make percentage base go high enough, then yes.

AKA:

Percentage Based Pen can make armor go below 0.

Flat Based Pen cannot.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by The Overmyynd » March 22, 2013 8:05pm | Report
Rhollback wrote:

*Is it possible.

And from what I understand, flat penetration can never make it fall below 0, and if you somehow make percentage base go high enough, then yes.

AKA:

Percentage Based Pen can make armor go below 0.

Flat Based Pen cannot.



... What? That makes... No sense... Mathematically the lowest percent you can get to is 0%...
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Mooninites » March 22, 2013 8:22pm | Report
You can get a negative value on Armor and MR. Soraka's starcall is a perfect example

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by The Overmyynd » March 22, 2013 8:39pm | Report
What I was saying was, just doing flat percent won't let you go below 0 armor or mres, because its just percent. The lowest % you can go is 0.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » March 22, 2013 8:43pm | Report
You cannot penetrate below zero armor (logically: You can't go through what's not there) (Brutalizer, LW)

You can reduce armor below zero (logically, you completely destroy the armor, then destroy the body)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by EXDKain212 » March 22, 2013 8:52pm | Report
tehAsian wrote:

You cannot penetrate below zero armor (logically: You can't go through what's not there) (Brutalizer, LW)

You can reduce armor below zero (logically, you completely destroy the armor, then destroy the body)

He's right. items like Abyssal Scepter can reduce an enemy's MR below 0.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Mikuroo » March 22, 2013 8:55pm | Report
if they only have 30 magic resistance and you have 40 magic pen you do increased damage, but their armor isn't reduced. So from your view, its technically reduced to -10 i guess
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Nighthawk » March 22, 2013 8:57pm | Report
or if you don't understand what tehasian is saying:

penetration can't reduce armor below zero, reduction can.

an ezreal with 30 mr and 10 stacks of starcall on her has -90 mr. a soraka with 150% penetration will only penetrate said ez's mr to 0.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Nighthawk » March 22, 2013 8:58pm | Report
Mikuroo wrote:

if they only have 30 magic resistance and you have 40 magic pen you do increased damage, but their armor isn't reduced. So from your view, its technically reduced to -10 i guess


no, only if you have 40 REDUCTION or 30 Pen and 10 Reduction, will it be reduced to -10.


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