Patch 4.13 Notes

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Has anyone else got opinions on the Sona rework? From what I've read she's gonna be shit.[/quote]

[quote=Jovy]Hope she's trash.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy][quote=MissMaw]How much time this take? :_([/quote] About 1h15m to put everything in the Database, bar a few :)[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=TROLLing1999]That Kog change. Before this you could get one point in Q at level 3-4 and have that 20% Resistance shred until level 14. Then you could freely max W for damage and E for waveclear/slow. Do you think that these changes could have impact on the skill order?[/quote] Don't think so, long range slow + waveclear on E is way to important to miss out on in the midgame.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=Lugignaf][quote=FalseoGod]Oh god they're trying to bring [[graves]] back up, talk about the most annoying of all adc's when fed that feels more like an ad assassins fml.[/quote] Well, he is really more of an AD caster than an AD carry. So... it fits! :D At least he's almost back to release strength in terms of damage. A little more base damage on buckshot, and he'll be stronger than on release. >:D[/quote] Played against him the other day, I was a fed [[rengar]] and he was also fed. Ulted onto his face, he E'd and flash'ed+healed my E and damage, then just cast all his spells and I vanished T_T I do find him pretty frustrating to face once he gets fed, most fed ADCs may have some sort of burst but there's usually a window of opportunity that [[graves]] does not provide. All the same, I guess it's ok to see different champs now and then :P[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=MissMaw]I thought Thresh was pretty "balanced" [size=1][sup]as balanced as his kit allowed[/sup][/size]. They can't [i]really[/i] nerf him without changing his kit. Best they could do is lower his stats and ratios so that he's unviable or just weak, but they won't do that. And even if you were to attempt to nerf him, like they did this patch, I agree the W wasn't what they should've been looking at.[/quote] It's just kinda strange. If they wanted to nerf something, they probably should've touched his hook's downtime a little bit.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Hue, False. ironic isn't it? Complaining about not having a window of opportunity to avoid bursts from ADCs as you play Rengar?[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=OTGBionicArm]Hue, False. ironic isn't it? Complaining about not having a window of opportunity to avoid bursts from ADCs as you play Rengar?[/quote] Hey I'm the assassin not them wth. Are you implying rengar is potentially broken because with 12 stacks people need split-second reactions or their carry vanishes? wow that's why you're gold trash omg But in all seriousness I've seen [[leblanc]] players take longer than some [[graves]] to make a squishy disappear :3[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]That's kind of [[Graves]]' shtick as an ADC tho.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Graves still sucks imo he kills tanks worst out of all adc's. Jinx ult still 10x better than graves if there at least a little low on hp it will do alot more dmg.[/quote]