Vynertje wrote:
@ Trolling: All germans (and a lot of dutchies as well) absolutely hate Greece politicians as well for ****ing up the whole economy. They are absolute masters of creative accounting. I could go on a rant for hours about this lol.
How can you talk for Germans a Dutch person, lel. I think Germans rather hate their politicians for helping Greece because the people here always are criticizing that taxpayers have to remit too much money. I don't think people here are caring about the politicans in Greece because like back when everyone was talking about the issues the politicians in Greece switched day after day.

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emoriam wrote:
I will just come up with a new question here but don't forget the old ones:
What do you think about your country's school system? Do you appreciate it or are there any flaws in your opinion?
What do you think about your country's school system? Do you appreciate it or are there any flaws in your opinion?
My biggest issue with our school system is that our politicians **** around with it whenever there is a new gouvernment without asking for the opinions of the teachers/students/parents first.
My father is headmaster in a small elementary school and most of the stuff the politicians is stuff that students and parents don't really notice like new(stupid and unnecessary) forms and stuff like that.
ninjaedit: I am german btw

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G8GTS,
best invention Germany ever had - not.
The school system in germany was flawed, is still kinda.
Back then, it would be Hauptschule < Realschule < Gymnasium.
Those 3 levels also formed society classes divided into their respective workplace.
Which lead to Hauptschule being '******s' and most likely going into physical labour and underpayed jobs (MC Donalds right here).
Realschule will be visited by kinda middleclass-ish people, who will later then join officejobs etc.
While people who graduate from Gymnasium will most likely go to university and form the leading class of society.
Unfortunately, this system is so outdated and the requirements to get into a Gymnasium are so low, that literally everyone can join the Gymnasium.
This is also why I can't understand people who do not manage to go through Gymnasium. I went through there as an average student with 0 work.
Before my final exams I started to study 1 day before chemistry, 1 night before histry, not at all for english.
Having a graduation on Hauptschule/Realschule (now 1 school together as Realschule+) wasn't really helping, as alot of graduates from Gymnasium, who are not going to university, will snatch away their jobs, leaving them at said MC Donalds.
best invention Germany ever had - not.
The school system in germany was flawed, is still kinda.
Back then, it would be Hauptschule < Realschule < Gymnasium.
Those 3 levels also formed society classes divided into their respective workplace.
Which lead to Hauptschule being '******s' and most likely going into physical labour and underpayed jobs (MC Donalds right here).
Realschule will be visited by kinda middleclass-ish people, who will later then join officejobs etc.
While people who graduate from Gymnasium will most likely go to university and form the leading class of society.
Unfortunately, this system is so outdated and the requirements to get into a Gymnasium are so low, that literally everyone can join the Gymnasium.
This is also why I can't understand people who do not manage to go through Gymnasium. I went through there as an average student with 0 work.
Before my final exams I started to study 1 day before chemistry, 1 night before histry, not at all for english.
Having a graduation on Hauptschule/Realschule (now 1 school together as Realschule+) wasn't really helping, as alot of graduates from Gymnasium, who are not going to university, will snatch away their jobs, leaving them at said MC Donalds.

xIchi wrote:
G8GTS,
The school system in germany was flawed, is still kinda.
Back then, it would be Hauptschule < Realschule < Gymnasium.
Those 3 levels also formed society classes divided into their respective workplace.
The school system in germany was flawed, is still kinda.
Back then, it would be Hauptschule < Realschule < Gymnasium.
Those 3 levels also formed society classes divided into their respective workplace.
I thought the Germs I knew were exaggurating the "******" part of Hauptschule, but it seems indeed pretty low, if McDonalds is your best shot :P
The Dutch school system is as following:
Elementary school (mix of kids)
-> Middle school (VMBO, HAVO and VWO)
-> If VMBO -> MBO (college)
-> If HAVO -> HBO (bachelor)
-> If VWO -> WO (university)
VMBO is like 50% of the Netherlands and this is considered to be the lowest form of education (regarding middle school). Even then, VMBO is divided in different layers, so that you also have Basic, Theoretical and "Kader" levels which all differentiate the skill a VMBO guy has. These people are usually going to MBO as well (college), where they can slightly "specialise" in a certain direction. The MBO level of work is very pitiful however, for pretty much everyone I know that has been on that level made it with ease. The ones that wanted to continue on with HBO had to work really hard in order to make it. If you want to know what directions you can get into specifically, as a VMBO person you can go pretty much anywhere, but you will do the more practical work instead of theoretical. Eg construction guy, painter, office worker, that kind of stuff.
HAVO is the higher form of education in comparison to VMBO. This would be like ~30% of the Netherlands. Unlike VMBO, there is only one level of it, which is simply HAVO. Then when people finish it, they go to HBO (bachelor) (or MBO if they want to do something easy), where they really can specialise in a direction. I myself am on this boat atm. If you follow something like this, you will likely be doing a mix of practical and theoretical work, like: Teacher, lab worker, programmer, economist, etc.
VWO is the highest form of education on the middle school. This is a real minority in the Netherlands. Sometimes VWO is differentiated in Gymnasium and Atheneum, although the difference is literally: Gymnasium has to learn 1 language more (afaik). When these people finish the middle school, they go to WO (university) or lower, where they can do whatever they like, really. If you follow an university level, you will likely be doing something very theoretical like: Medical nerd, law nerd, science nerd, supernerd and all that kind of stuff.



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TROLLing1999 wrote:
What are the most popular sports in your country? Is it common for kids/ teenagers to do a sport?
I am pretty sure that it is football in germany. Pretty much everyone I know has or is doing a sport, so it is very common.

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