Udyr Jungle viable again?

[quote=Tayl0r]Latest patch has come around and brought some changes for mana costs and such on Udyr, is he viable again as a jungler as he hasnt been used alot since the nerfs a while back. Been seeing some of the streamers having Udyrs on their teams and actually asking the jungler to go Udyr. What are your thoughts?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Yes. He's always been viable. Ganking is his real problem. He needs the constant ganks. Semi-related note: Because the mana costs on his skills have gone down a bit, he is less dependent on blue and can lane quite well if he's paired with a support.[/quote]

[quote=Tayl0r]Yer i knew he was always viable as a sort, but as you said requires alot of ganks. Is he easy to play in jungle and ganking? Havent played him in a long time so cant really remember what its like.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]I'm pretty sure his main problem still isn't fixed - kiting. Though he may be stronger in other areas, all of his skills are melee-range. Against an Ashe, he doesn't stand a chance. He has no gap closer, bear stance doesn't count.[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]Yeh he has become a stronger laner.. the buff hasnt really changed much in jungling, except a bit more spammability Btw I agree range kiters are a huge problem for udyr... I hope they give him some sort of range..[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Kiting is still a problem, yes. He is forced to get wards even more so than other junglers because he needs the element of surprise. He's great at focusing down specc'ed tanks as his damage is highly varied but he needs to build really tanky or he will be focused down extremely fast. Bear stance+Ghost will get you in/out of a ton of bad situations. Turtle is a great healing device although it is really weak at early levels. Tiger is a great tower pusher while bear is more like a mini ghost that should only really be pulled out for chasing/initiating/fleeing. Phoenix is really for farming. Getting a lot of kills or assists early on will make people scared of you. Especially when you can take out their Rammus because he doesn't know you deal most of your damage in magic. Hell, even getting 4-5 kills will make people scare of you if you itemize correctly.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]lol, could you imagine removing one of his current moves to give: Frog Stance Leaps to cursor position ^ There you go, gap closing solved. haha, calling it now, OP.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=jhoijhoi] lol, could you imagine removing one of his current moves to give: Frog Stance Leaps to cursor position ^ There you go, gap closing solved. haha, calling it now, OP. [/quote] Just imagine. Flash the summoner spell, but on a FOUR SECOND COOLDOWN :O!!!!! SOOOO OP :O Udyr would become the new Nidalee yo.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Temzilla] Just imagine. Flash the summoner spell, but on a FOUR SECOND COOLDOWN :O!!!!! [/quote] Boom. Ezreal and Q spam. You're welcome.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]Hasn't changed anything, still prone to kiting, still not a good pick in the current meta. Needs a team centered around him.[/quote]