A little Shen info

[quote=DuffTime]Sunfire and Randuin's would be a good couple of items. Pair it with Force of Nature, and Rylai's, and you're starting to look like a decent tank. Any other suggestions?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]As you see, you don't need any [[Warmog's Armor]]. There are better items for [[shen]], like [[searz]] said.^^ BTW: [[banshee's veil]]? Instead of [[abyssal scepter]] for really full tank. Well, I miss an magic resist item with good cc on it...[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]No I completely disagree. I think Warmogg's is the best tank item in the game for all tanks in 90% of games. I just want to hear what the opinions are of the other Moba members.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]When i play shen i start either cloth+5hp or boots+3hp, i solo top, and i start vorpal blade. My first trip back is wriggles or giants belt depending upon who i am laning against(AP is usually giants belt, unless i keep safe from their burst with wriggles life steal.), then i pick up the giants belt from Rylai's, and grab a negatron cloak. Finishing Rylai's and Abyssals, you are pretty much ready to do your main job. You can finish out the build with something like Aegis+Frozen Mallet, or GA/Aegis, or some combination of tank/utility items. I don't like Sunfire, because it really doesn't do enough damage, and it delays other, more useful items. I don't like warmogs because it is only useful when your lane enemy, or significant threat in team fights does a lot of burst damage, and is going to target YOU with that damage. I just don't see the point to itemizing against casters on Tanks, when they will never be attacking you. (To clarify, on most of my "tanks" i end up with around 250 armor and 175~ MR, I'm not waltzing around with 30mr.)[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=DuffTime] No I completely disagree. I think Warmogg's is the best tank item in the game for all tanks in 90% of games. I just want to hear what the opinions are of the other Moba members.[/quote] Most people will disagree. Now you know what will happen for the rest of this thread. Thread has now filled it's purpose. /thread[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]This whole talk about who is targetting what... I don't know what game you guys are playing. In the game I play, the opponents deal enough damage to kill tanks. You need to be a real tank to live through the kind of damage my opponents bring to the table. And I'm not talking walk out of a fight full HP, I'm talking you're a full on meat-head tank and you barely survive the fight. That's the kind of damage you need to be capable of tanking. Sunfire is generally not purchased for the damage, it's purchased for the defense which is why I think Randuin's is better. There are cases in which Sunfire's damage is useful however. The armor and HP together make it a decent pick, but won't grant as much survivability as Randuins, nor as much utility. So I'd say it's not a great buy either. Tem, offer me a full item build if you don't mind. Or at least 4-5 items you could see yourself building.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Searz] Thread has now filled it's purpose. /thread [/quote] You have yet to give me an alternative itemization choice. Until you give me an alternative item choice, I can't explain to you why you're wrong, and you can't explain to me why you're right. So effectively you've contributed nothing to this thread except your opinion that I like Warmogg's too much.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=DuffTime] Tem, offer me a full item build if you don't mind. Or at least 4-5 items you could see yourself building.[/quote] Yes, so you can pick it apart with a wall of text basically saying that you're disagreeing. Everyone loves walls of text.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Hey Searz. Item build. Let's go. What would you build on Shen?[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=DuffTime]Tem, offer me a full item build if you don't mind. Or at least 4-5 items you could see yourself building.[/quote] [icon=Mercury's Treads size=32][icon=Rylai's Crystal Scepter size=32][icon=Abyssal Scepter size=32][icon=Guardian Angel size=32][icon=Aegis of the Legion size=32][icon=Randuin's Omen size=32] Something like that. I run Flash/Exhaust, and use [url=http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Shen/?items=70,84,22,64,11,105&runes=11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,112,112,112,112,112,112,112,112,112,1,1,1&masteries=0000000000000003030411040000032040102011000&level=18]these[/url] runes/masteries and stuff. Using my Teemo rune page :s.[/quote]