Any times you DON'T buy the ult at level 6?

[quote=NicknameMy]If you constantly attack champions it has a really low cooldown and is very often usable. But [[taric]] will be reworked anyway. And I generally like his new kit more than before, the armor ratio on his passive is really great and the HP ratio on his heal aswell.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]The armor ratio was a nerf to [[Taric]], not really sure why you like it more EDIT: missed the jungle taric signature, god I'm an idiot[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]yeah moon how did you not know taric is a top tier jungler now, why would anyone even think of playing him in a different role[/quote]

[quote=Hooves]So I forgot to get Janna's ult during a game a long time ago. Against an aggressive bot lane it proved vital.[/quote]

[quote=LevasK]Lugignaf was talking about skipping [[Monsoon]] on a mid lane [[Janna]] not about support.[/quote]

[quote=Phoenix0000ff]Sometimes on jungle twitch i'll take another level of stealth for ganking / flexibility on mana cost. Usually in the case where lanes are stagnant and bullying lanes is more advantageous over engagements with multiple enemies.[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka]I dunno', Phoenix, the extra range and damage from [[Spray and Pray]] seem like perfectly valid reasons to take it even if you don't expect to use its piercing effect.[/quote]

[quote=Phoenix0000ff]Well I do have like 2000 games on jungle twitch. I'm just listing because I need to test it for next season. Jungle Twitch uses a lot of mana. Also when people flash from ganks your attacks with S&P can miss. If you know hey, 4 attacks and this guy is done then there is no reason to calculate damage further with an ult. The extra stealth can help position and +attack speed from stealth good too. It's a confusing trick but it is a strong tool in the right hands.[/quote]

[quote=DespisedEUNE]i ALWAYS get my ultimate at level 6. But on Maokai, i dont level it up @ 11 or 16, since hes CD is low on it anyways, and it only increases hes base dmg. not the dmg reduce, which is what maokai ultimate is used for. Same with jayce, if i'm dominating my lane, i usually level it up 6 - 11 - 13 for the Ranged Armor/Mres reduction and the Hammer passive AA. but if im behind, i rather level Q and E over R. but that's it really.[/quote]

[quote=SOAC Bas]From my experience, it's generally dependant on the champ and stage in the game. 1). Jayce - I think most people continue to build on his other abilities 2). Sion - AP Sion pushes the ult off as far as possible 3). Brand - His ult is pretty meh while in laning phase. You get it if you see their jungler alot, but you can wait on it as well. 4). Galio - If you are winning your lane it's not that great, but if you are losing taking it for the tower divers and watching yout turret kill them during you ult is hilarious. 5). Maokai - his ult is meh anyways, and it's much better to get a bit more in saplings or twisted advance 6). Quinn - It's not worth it in laning phase unless planning to roam. 7). Heimer - His ult is less effective if you only have 1 point in Rockets 8). Urgot - I hate his ultimate so much.[/quote]