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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by sakil7395 » December 26, 2011 11:21am | Report
The mark of mights are 0.13 per level and 2.43 per level at level 18.

0.13 * 9 = 1.17

2.43 * 9 = 21.87

Plus the 9% life steal from runes and masteries.

Assuming that you do get to level 18 you would have a big advantage.

Wouldn't this be a great choice of runes for ad carries

Thoughts?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Blydden » December 26, 2011 4:46pm | Report
Needs a lot more Armor Penetration.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Phoenix0000ff » December 30, 2011 7:28am | Report
AD marks scale better than ArP marks if you get a Last Whisper

Only problem that comes to mind is last hitting and early damage vs players
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Jebus McAzn » December 30, 2011 7:49am | Report
Blydden: Most people have actually been using full AD marks and quints recently with the new masteries since the armor pen mastery is percentage based. There's no need to invest as heavily into ArP marks any more since I believe the AD marks actually end up contributing more damage once you take the masteries into account.

I did, however, hear Doublelift on stream talking about theorycrafting involving lifesteal quints. He said if you go scaling AD red and take lifesteal quints and start with a Vamp Scepter, you should IN THEORY have a very strong early game although he's tried it in practice and it doesn't work as well as he planned.

Still, on most champs that get an early BT I'd rather just farm it up and stomp the match without having to worry about gimping myself early game.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Joobieo#41288 » December 30, 2011 10:09am | Report
Jebus's last line sums it up for me as well.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pwnzor1130 » December 30, 2011 2:08pm | Report

Blydden: Most people have actually been using full AD marks and quints recently with the new masteries since the armor pen mastery is percentage based. There's no need to invest as heavily into ArP marks any more since I believe the AD marks actually end up contributing more damage once you take the masteries into account.

I did, however, hear Doublelift on stream talking about theorycrafting involving lifesteal quints. He said if you go scaling AD red and take lifesteal quints and start with a Vamp Scepter, you should IN THEORY have a very strong early game although he's tried it in practice and it doesn't work as well as he planned.

Still, on most champs that get an early BT I'd rather just farm it up and stomp the match without having to worry about gimping myself early game.

The whole "flat AD marks dealing more damage" argument is false. Outside of a best-case scenario at level 1, you are typically dealing LESS damage to players throughout the entire game (even once you have Last Whisper). I'm not AS sure about AD/lvl marks, but they are definitely going to deal less damage throughout early/mid-game which could greatly reduce the effectiveness of your late-game power.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Nighthawk » December 30, 2011 2:51pm | Report
Pwnzor, math or gtfo :)


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pwnzor1130 » December 30, 2011 5:24pm | Report
Nighthawk wrote:

Pwnzor, math or gtfo :)

*sigh* Looks like I have to make a spreadsheet.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Wintermond » December 30, 2011 6:26pm | Report
Depends.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » December 30, 2011 7:08pm | Report
Just like every other flavor rune and mastery choice accompanied with words like "Best" and/or "Meta," there is a time and a place for everything, and this just happens to be the newest most popular method of the month :P
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