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Been playing a ton of Swain recently, and been having alot of success, but alot of the builds on here recommend different ways of building him. I really haven't come up with a standard way of building him. So far, this is what I have been doing:

Start boots/3 pots (I've actually had a ton of success with this approach vs mana crystal or dorans.

- Two dorans rings

- Catalyst > RoA

- Then I build either Hextech Revolver or if I want more survivability Giant's Belt > Rylai's

- Rabadons

- Typically Finish WotA

But really, I change every game. Sometimes I build hextech right after RoA, sometimes I don't build it at all.

So really, I'm just curious how you build him? Should I be rushing deathcap more? I know RoA is pretty core, but are there any other "must have" core items I am missing? Any tips are appreciated!
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Booshido » December 17, 2011 9:01am | Report
boots > dorans x2 > deathcap > mercs/sorc > rylias > void/hourglass > wota

mana crystal > catalyst & boots > RoA > deathcap > Void etc etc etc
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Rudmed » December 17, 2011 9:10am | Report
Dorans > Boots >ROA > WOTA > Ryali's> Deathcap> Zhonya's.

Thats how I build swain.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » December 17, 2011 10:38am | Report
RoA / Rylai's / WotA / Frozen heart.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Darcurse » December 17, 2011 1:35pm | Report
Rudmed wrote:

Dorans > Boots >ROA > WOTA > Ryali's> Deathcap> Zhonya's.


Skip Rylai's and get Abyssal Scepter if the enemy team is balanced.
Also I would get sth more tanky since Swain benefits more from being beefy.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Searz » December 17, 2011 6:24pm | Report
Swain can skip doran rings and go right for ROA, and getting D ring over boots as first item is just madness.

I go boots+3pots->ROA->Sorc->Deathcap->WOTA->Defensive item->Void Staff-Offensive/Defensive item
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Zeprido » December 17, 2011 6:32pm | Report
Searz wrote:

Swain can skip doran rings and go right for ROA, and getting D ring over boots as first item is just madness.

I go boots+3pots->ROA->Sorc->Deathcap->WOTA->Defensive item->Void Staff-Offensive/Defensive item
in most matches.


This, Swain need the mobility, both for lane safety, and harass/last hitting.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by TheWeekndOVOXO » December 21, 2011 12:26am | Report
I agree. Boots is important on Swain.

Boots + 3 HP is def my favorite set of items for any game.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by animorte » December 21, 2011 3:48am | Report
Two Doran's rings... ew. Yes, I will slow my late game important item builds for those rather small base stats. It's hard enough for me to feel comfortable getting just one as it is. But if it floats your boat, go for it. Seriously though...

...Philosopher's Stone + Blue buff = Perma Ult :) Oh yeah, and don't forget to stack Deathcap's after you get Rylai's awesome slow or Abyssal Mpen.

Tank-ish: Abyssal + Zhonya... and a couple Deathcaps :D

Archangel is really good too, I think.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Embracing » December 21, 2011 3:56am | Report
animorte wrote:

Two Doran's rings... ew. Yes, I will slow my late game important item builds for those rather small base stats. It's hard enough for me to feel comfortable getting just one as it is. But if it floats your boat, go for it. Seriously though...

Stacking Doran's is for a hard lane. There's NOTHING wrong with stacking Doran's.
Would you rather get zoned out and have no farms and damage output, or maintain a steady game from early ~ late?
Stacking Doran's has worked before and is still working lol.
The reasoning is just the same as buying armor in a solo-top lane against hard AD champs, and buying safer items like Wriggles or 2 Dorans / Zeal on an AD carry before rushing a BF sword in a hard lane. You don't save up 1.65k gold when you're getting zoned lol.
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animorte wrote:

...Philosopher's Stone + Blue buff = Perma Ult :) Oh yeah, and don't forget to stack Deathcap's after you get Rylai's awesome slow or Abyssal Mpen.

1) Doran's Ring > Philo imo. Philo only provides 1g/10 and contains no damage output at all, while with Doran's Rings and your ult you can already sustain a lot...
2) No one ever stacks Deathcaps...
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