New early meta build for AD carries ?

[quote=Atarios]It's just people following PhoenixKami's Vayne guide on solomid.net[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]To be fair, [[doran's blade]] doesnt build into anything late game either :/ And people buy two, three, hell i've even seen 5 dorans and a pair of boots on a [[riven]] once. I think its not a ~bad~ idea... If you don't care to be uuber passive for 20 minutes. Stay in lane long enough to get HoG, then stay in lane for another 15-20 minutes till you can buy i-edge and a BT straight up. I wouldnt do it... i like hurting people too much o.0[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]BTW: The actual metagamae for bot lane ad-carries goes [[doran's blade]]+[[doran's blade]]+[[vampiric scepter]]. This beats by far your build.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]First of all, people only get vamp when they need sustain. It's not meta on them. Secondly, BT is fine on AD-based champions when stomping. Graves often goes BT PD IE for massive deeps Thirdly, getting IE before zeal is fine. It doesn't matter if "math says this math says that". I don't think a team would be engaging teamfights 24/7 at 25 minutes. And back on topic: People go dorans blades for the health+ lifesteal + damage. If you can't be aggressive bot, it means enemies can bully you. Even if you're farming decent, if the enemy is bullying you they can makes plays / roam and you can't. PhoenixKami goes Hog+vamp on Vayne because Vayne has a relatively weak laning phase. He gets the health and lifesteal and just opts for late game. People who say "doran's build into nothing" don't understand what Doran's items do. They're cheap and provide the stats you need to farm into the late game items... And tbh, if I had 1700 gold on my first back I would buy 2 dorans + vamp + zerkers (assuming I bought boots)[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]If I have 1700 gold as AD carry, I'd buy a [[B. F. Sword]] on my first way back. If you can farm all that it means you have no need for any Doran's crap.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]But doran's and boots will help to stomp the enemy with ease at that point.[/quote]

[quote=Morr33d]Polse has been doing Avarice Blade to help his early crit chance from IE. If anything, I would tak double dorans and avarice. (He also runs lifesteal quints instead of AD ones, so he can afford buying Avarice before Vamp scepter.)[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz]Just went through a normal game as [[Miss fortune]] with [[Blitzcrank]] as support, and I was using [[heart of gold]].. Tbh it didn't damage my early game at all and the extra hp was beneficial when I got ganked by the enemy jungler.. I still was able to maintain lane dominance thanks to my [[double up]] and i pretty much snowballed the lane hard with gold advantage, slightly thanks to my [[heart of gold]].. Seems legit. Ps: My Blitz sucked pretty hard :S[/quote]

[quote=AncientNecro]I'm a huge fan of the quick double dorans 1st time back. On champs like graves I finish my boots and then Rush IE or bloodthirster afterwards depending on the game. On AP's I rush NL Rod after boots and double dorans as well. I don't really see the sense in starting with heart of gold on an AD carry, but if it works for you, roll with it man! New things are discovered every day.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Errr TBH I think there's been too much shifting lately. I don't even know what's best any more. I know that Aphromoo is (In my opinion) the best AD carry player right now, and he usually goes BT - PD - IE/LW. So that's what I usually do when I play ADC. But TBH it probably doesn't matter too much as long as you deal deeps. (P.S, VAYNE is a unique case where her ult gives a shit ton of damage and she doesn't always have to rush damage early. My old Vayne build was Wriggle's / PD / I.E. for that very reason.)[/quote]