Nidalee, thoughts on her nerf

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Wintermond] Nid is still pretty good. Although I build her different now: I go for Flash/Ignite and rush Sheen for lane dominance in cougar form and it's pretty hard to outlane nid once she got her cougar with that. Later you can poke everything down and clean the survivors after the fighgt in cougar. Nid was great, and she's still great if you're good on her. [/quote] You 100% will have to modify your playstlye though.[/quote]

[quote=gwadzila]Build Nidalee like Skarner o.o This idea just occurred to me. Hybrid and Tanky, allows you to get in peoples faces but also have some nice damage/heal on your other abilities. IDK, maybe that's a bad idea, but it would certainly allow us to do something with cougar.[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]ya, but you'd have to pretty much be in cougar all the time, since her human abilities would be pretty much useless then[/quote]

[quote=th3BlackAngel][quote=Wintermond] Nid is still pretty good. Although I build her different now: I go for Flash/Ignite and rush Sheen for lane dominance in cougar form and it's pretty hard to outlane nid once she got her cougar with that. Later you can poke everything down and clean the survivors after the fighgt in cougar. Nid was great, and she's still great if you're good on her. [/quote] This is how I've always built her: Doran's ring > level 1 boots > sheen > deathcap > lich bane. After that its mostly situational. @Temizilla I know she's still strong, and her poke was always beast, but I feel like now she's missing something, her heals are basically shit and you still can't go cougar form and try to join in on a team fight because you'll still get ass-fucked. Unless you build tanky which basically makes your poke shit and your heal shittier. Also, the problem is that she has no place in the meta right now, she can't solo top, and you shouldn't put her mid, and bot is occupied by the AD carry, and she can't jungle until level 6. Until we see the meta shift she's not viable.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Meta talk... The strongest solo top champs are those with sustain.(Or extreme lane control, ofc) Nid is no threat in any way to her opponent pre 6 and has to play very defensive, but when she's 6 she deals good damage and can heal herself up all day. She's very hard to gank in cougar aswell. She's a decent solo top laner.[/quote]

[quote=th3BlackAngel]She deals good damage to squishies. Against the current solo top picks (Cho, Singed, Jax, Udyr, Jarvan, Irelia) she really does not do that much, especially since she has no CC to jump in and jump out unscathed.[/quote]

[quote=Freddy Shopan]I think it would have been fine if they had just nerfed her heal. I thought that was he initial intention until I heard about all the other nerfs. I feel like the others were not really called for.[/quote]

[quote=theBMB][quote=Freddy Shopan] I think it would have been fine if they had just nerfed her heal. I thought that was he initial intention until I heard about all the other nerfs. I feel like the others were not really called for. [/quote] what "other nerfs" they nerfed her heal and buffed everything else[/quote]

[quote=Freddy Shopan][quote=theBMB] what "other nerfs" they nerfed her heal and buffed everything else [/quote] These nerfs: [quote] Pounce May now be affected by Cooldown Reduction Cooldown increased to 4 seconds from 3 seconds Primal Surge Mana cost adjusted to 60/80/100/120/140 from 65/70/75/80/85 Base heal adjusted to 50/85/120/155/190 from 60/90/120/150/180 Ability power ratio reduced to 0.7 from 1.25 Aspect of the Cougar now grants 10/15/20 armor and magic resistance instead of 10% Dodge [/quote] The pounce and aspect of cougar changes make it significantly hard to escape b'ding significantly (every 3rd pounce could have been 4, and she loses dodge speed buff). Without heal, backdooring is really her strongest point. Ask most Nidalee players, and they'll tell you that they'd much rather have kept aspect of the cougar and related abilities the same than have them "buffed", if only for the pounce. Javelin toss makes little difference in teamfights, because Nidalee should have blue to be useful in constant poking. The only difference is in lane, where Nidalee usually would refrain from throwing spears, anyway.[/quote]

[quote=Keels]Wtf, Nid is still great... awesome poke, only got hurt on her OP as shit sustain.[/quote]