Ok let's talk about Ryze...

[quote=DuffTime]Needs moar Void Staff :3[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Wota is meant to be good on Ryze too. And I'm assuming you're building Frozen Heart/Banshee's Veil before those RoAs because rushing those in lane is extremely fun on Ryze. :D[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I just think the VoyBoy/Scarra builds are too good.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I go all out mana Mpen reds (of course) then mana per level/flat mana seals glyphs Add in 1 flat mana quint two mana per level quints....And then I carry like a bawz[/quote]

[quote=example1013]I haven't completely decided whether I prefer the BV-only build Duff likes or if I prefer tossing on RoA. On one hand, RoA provides more mana and lotsa yummy HP, but on the other hand, late WotA for all that spellvamp is pretty sexeh too.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Tear - Catalyst - Shroud - BV - FH - Void Staff - WotA - AA Es best imo :3[/quote]

[quote=example1013]It's def good, but I like the safety net RoA provides (also RoA, BV, FH, and AA net you around 4700 mana np).[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]but den no spellvamp D: and no void staff, have to pick one or da otha[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]ok lets put this shit in order. boots somewhere tear catalyst roa catalyst/glacial shroud (depending on enemies which order) banshees/frozen heart (again depending on enemies) wota (unless someone else has, then nother roa) archangels i think i use 0/6/24 but i could be mistaken.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]WotA is gonna offer better survivability den da RoA :P[/quote]