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What is the place of Ionic spark?

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May 12, 2012 2:36pm
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The people that would use it are people that build stuff like Malady, Wit's End, and madred's. However the only one of those it out damages is malady, the extra health is nice but really not even that much.

If you get it first and ignore malady it puts you behind as you don't get that early game punch from malady which is much easier to build (two Daggers vs a Recurve Bow) so you don't want to rush it. Ionic spark outdamages malady by 10 against single targets, but malady gives AP and shreds MR so theoretically it may do more. I don't have the data on that.

If you try to put in in the middle say after malady or wit's end you put off precious time that you could be building a better item, and if you leave it for after madred's you lose a spot that could be a BC or IE or Frozen Mallet or really any item that could be more useful. So where does it go?

The only reason it outdamages a Wit's end is because it can help you farm and in team fights it deals damage to multiple people, but really the splash may hurt your farming (if you can't control it) and wit's end helps way more with early game when you buy it. Against single targets wit's end does 58 more damage plus gives you MR as you attack.

Madred's does more damage at about 1000 hp to single targets and even more the more hp they get so by end game it is about twice as effective against single targets. Against single targets at 1000 hp madred's does 50 more damage.


Is it not even designed for where it looks like it should be used? Am I completely off on how it functions? What do you guys think?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by CellOne » May 12, 2012 3:11pm | Report
Agree, the item is not thaaaat good.
Tried several times to implement it in my style, e.g. with Warwick (Dar1en played WW with IS instead of WE in some tournament game). Though it's working, Wit's End seems to be better in almost every situation.
Also on higher elos ppl can start to count your attack to dodge the lightning.
I really like the item, but in my opinion it needs a small buff.

btw could be good on Shen... but I dont play Shen, wont try it.
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If they just rework the items used to build it they could solve the whole problem and make it replace Malady. Change the recurve bow into two daggers. That would make it much more useful and cost efficient than a malady without even having to change stats. Or if they just made it every 3rd hit instead of 4th then it would easily outclass malady and maybe even wit's end thanks to the splash. Or if they added a one second stun when it does it's 4th hit that would be great. people could actually use it strategically for ganks instead of just using it for damage. I don't know. I just can't find a place for it as is.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by CellOne » May 12, 2012 4:06pm | Report
At the moment it's just an AoE-Wit's End. Maybe a bit better for pushing.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by IceCreamy » May 12, 2012 4:24pm | Report
It works like a charm on AD carries in arams ;D

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Phoenix0000ff » May 12, 2012 5:39pm | Report
I did some math on this item a while back and found it was very good if you got it in the first 2 minutes of the game. After that though I think it starts to fall off.

Maybe in Aram - Arab
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » May 12, 2012 6:57pm | Report
The place of Ionic spark, is on the shelf in the item shop where you found it.

It should never be touched. Never be moved.

Much like the one ring, keep it secret, keep it safe. We may have already spoken about it too much. Let's just allow ourselves to forget it even exists in fact... Yes... That's it... Let the memory wash away.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » May 12, 2012 7:11pm | Report
I saw pro build it on Shen. It seems to give him everything he wants. HP, AS, pushing power.

Don't know how well it works otherwise though.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » May 12, 2012 7:32pm | Report
No. He lied to you. Do not build it on Shen.

Zeke's would be infinitely better than Ionic spark on Shen.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by MyRepublic » May 12, 2012 8:02pm | Report
LoL Duff.

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