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League of Legends (LoL) Question: Does Pantheon REALLY counter Rek'sai amd Nasus?

Posted in Champions | Tags: Nasus Pantheon Rek'Sai 9,283

  • TwillyFSniper

    Does Pantheon REALLY counter Rek'sai amd Nasus?

    Now I heard these both from silver players, and both times I got WRECKED HARD. My belief is that Pantheon is actually COUNTERED by those two.
    Rek'Sai- Has more of what Pantheon ends up with, EARLIER. Also, stuns BY THEMSELVES do not counter Rek'sai. Or most anything.
    Nasus- Susan spelled backwards. LOL LoL. Nasus counters Pantheon because he can tank out his burst, and deal THAT SAME BURST TO HIM. Early? What early game do you speak of on Panth? His is BAD. He can poke and WEQ for small damage... But he needs his build to get going on the Weqqing.

    Do you agree with the Stubborn Silvers or I?
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    LevasK (108) | January 12, 2015 5:57am
    If we are talking purely about the laning phase, I'm pretty sure Pantheon can and will win vs either.
    I could be totally wrong about Rek'Sai match up, but Nasus has no chance in lane vs Pantheon, if Pantheon plays it properly.

    As for your comment: "What early game do you speak of on Panth?". Pantheon is one of the strongest lane bullies in the game, his early game is stupidly powerful- the late game is where he struggles.
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    TwillyFSniper (1) | January 14, 2015 2:00pm
    But the Rek'sai thing is an OP champion problem. She can already outdeal Pantheon, even with WEQ up. As said by utopus, Queen's Wrath is an ability that buffs her sustained damage, by a bonkers amount, without cost or a cooldown to back up how OP that ability is.

    But I realized what I'm doing wrong. I have to fix my Pantheon guide. I level up my E way too much. It really only gives small benefits at that point. But he does have a very strong late game, if you play him correctly. Building tank is almost pointless, because his E's large burst damage increases are AD. There are some ways tankier Pantheon could function, like if you built a Thornmail to deal damage to enemies attacking you. Even then, that works much better with Tryndamere or the previously mentioned Nasus (Susan backwards, will never not be funny. I hate Nasus).
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    sirell (400) | January 14, 2015 1:35pm
    You also have an instant shield reset with W as well, so there's no real reason he should be able to successfully get a Q off so long as you have W up as well.
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    sirell (400) | January 14, 2015 1:34pm
    You get wrecked against a Nasus because you don't know how to play against a Nasus. This isn't a champion problem, it's a player problem.
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    TwillyFSniper (1) | January 14, 2015 1:22pm
    That's not what happens when I play him. At all. For me it's his late game that's stupidly powerful. I can get burst comparable to twice of Talon's. Maybe it's the fact I play him late game carry? Yet again, my main is perhaps the hardest late game carry in the game, so I guess I'm used to that. But he can easily get through the passive. All Nasus really needs to do is AA then Q. The Q's output is insane. But it may be just my way of Panth. Simply, I think I may rely a little too much on my E. May. But that's probably not it. I can't get wrecked 24/7 versus Nasus just for that.
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    sirell (400) | January 12, 2015 6:43am
    ^This.

    You need to stand between doge and your creeps and trade with him whenever he tries to CS. Freeze the lane, don't push it, unless he's recalled and he doesn't have TP, in which case, shove the creeps into the tower and get them to suicide against the tower, making him miss CS and xp.

    All that aside, the only reason you'd lose lane is if the jungler camps you.
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    Zordagoth (19) | January 12, 2015 6:34am
    They are right, dunno about Rek'Sai but Nasus is a free lane for the Baker, whenever he comes to last hit/Stack you just walk to him Q/AA/Q and he can't trade back cos of passive.

    But I know lower elo players tend to think pushing against Nasus is winning. Pushing =/= zoning
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    sirell (400) | January 12, 2015 6:27am
    Bewteen using Q to zone him and your passive auto-block to trade efficiently, Nasus shouldn't really stand much chance during laning. Pack Ignite, take Butcher and Mastery: feast, start with Crystalline Flask and you're pretty much guaranteed to win lane as long as you work well with your mana.
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    utopus (313) | January 12, 2015 9:18am
    Nasus can outduel pantheon later in the game, because nasus can use an autoattack to nullify the Aegis Protection, and then whack him with the Siphoning Strike. In lane, nasus will have one hellish lane though.

    I too, agree that Rek'Sai should be able to outduel Pantheon in the jungle. Idk how they would fare if both were pitted against eachother in lane, because i've only seen them both go jungle.
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    Joxuu (336) | January 12, 2015 6:05am
    Rek'Sai should win lane but I doubt that's the case in lower elos.
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    utopus (313) | January 12, 2015 9:23am
    Reksai has sustain, and with the help of the knockup, can use his Queen's Wrath to outduel pantheon in close range. Queen's Wrath is an autoattack reset so his Aegis Protection won't do much.

    Pantheon has marginally stronger poke with Spear Shot, but reksai has sustain some of the poke with Fury of the Xer'Sai, and can poke back with Prey Seeker.
    Provided that reksai has full rage, she can outduel pantheon in all in exchanges because of the true damage bonus she gets on Furious Bite
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    LevasK (108) | January 12, 2015 6:20am
    Please, explain.
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