Views: 900 I hate Shaco
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Jack In The Box needs a minimum placement radius. Meaning they can only be placed so close to each other.
I know if I am playing against a Shaco who is any good I'll be running around my jungle the entire game not really actually playing league. I'll be playing guess which bush Shaco has stacked with boxes.
I am fine with the Shaco concept of being an annoying and nasty counter jungler, but when they can stack three boxes in a bush that you are inevitably going to walk through while you are low level, toss a Two-Shiv Poison at your back while you are feared, and then Ignite you and that is basically their play style it gets kind of old.
Yes, I can do things to mitigate the problem, like wasting 75 g on a pink ward that he is going to kill pretty shortly. At least I know to stay out of that side of my jungle. But I can't do anything about it before my first back. That is even assuming I have enough gold left over for a pink.
One box you can usually walk away from maybe with a dagger in the back. Three not so much. Also the boxes and shiv do magic damage so it isn't like you can go back to base and buy some armor and you are K. You need a combination of MR and Armor to deal with the pestilence that is Shaco.
/rant for now
I know if I am playing against a Shaco who is any good I'll be running around my jungle the entire game not really actually playing league. I'll be playing guess which bush Shaco has stacked with boxes.
I am fine with the Shaco concept of being an annoying and nasty counter jungler, but when they can stack three boxes in a bush that you are inevitably going to walk through while you are low level, toss a Two-Shiv Poison at your back while you are feared, and then Ignite you and that is basically their play style it gets kind of old.
Yes, I can do things to mitigate the problem, like wasting 75 g on a pink ward that he is going to kill pretty shortly. At least I know to stay out of that side of my jungle. But I can't do anything about it before my first back. That is even assuming I have enough gold left over for a pink.
One box you can usually walk away from maybe with a dagger in the back. Three not so much. Also the boxes and shiv do magic damage so it isn't like you can go back to base and buy some armor and you are K. You need a combination of MR and Armor to deal with the pestilence that is Shaco.
/rant for now
Thank you for your reply and comment. I agree with you. When I play Lee, I invade level 2 and I encounter a lot of junglers and some players might actually not have the same experiences BUT I can say this. The intention of this post had to do with encountering Shaco as far as I understood it. If VexRoth wants to destroy a shaco, play Lee Sin because he will constantly avoid you and you can do whatever you want. FalseoGod, what rank are you? You seem to be somewhat savvy! :)
Also, another way to play around shaco as a jungler is utilizing less used paths (longer ways, less brush usage) and checking that you have at least one escape route should he come on top of you. Furthermore, Shaco is fairly burst-y but lacks sustained damage early, so good duelists might take a chunk but can fight back versus the clown.
If you want to end all of Shaco's existence, play and get good at lee sin.
Remember, there's a counter to anyone.
1) Counters aren't absolute in various cases. As a jungler, you don't ever directly counter another jungler if you don't even meet.
2) There's various ways for a Shaco to play around a Lee Sin and vice-versa. If you trully want to "counter" Shaco, you need to have more presence and early impact than he does, since the clown falls flat on his face mid-end game
Remember, there's a counter to anyone.