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I wouldn't rly recommend cloth +5 tho.

I dunno how much garen was changed but if he still has his spin he'll **** you up if he has more MS than you. But I agree that getting a 4th pot is quite helpful even tho I never do/did it myself and it worked out just fine (1500-1700 elo)

I do agree with this a lot, I will get screwed over by if I'm not able to move at a speed that will keep him from killing me with his combo. The thing is, spending time waiting for the 4th is my most crucial part of the laning phase as , because my basically makes me a deny-machine against 80% at least of the top laners. I sometimes score a FB out of it too.

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I appreciate the advice Wayne, I just wasn't sure how to tackle the new as . I know now for next time.

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I just checked a part of the vs game you played and I have a bit of advice for you if you don't mind tyvm.

You clearly underestimated a bit, but the main issue I have is your itemisation. started off with , giving him 120 extra health which is HUGE early game. He is also a very strong early champ (regardless of his item start), making + 5x the best option against him imo (just as you should buy those starting items against a or a for example). Instead, you started off with + 3x , but you didn't get a fourth pot. I don't see why.
You weren't really needed to help out your jungler, so you could've easily recalled and gotten a fourth health potion (after waiting a few seconds in base) without losing any experience in lane. With that, you might have done better as the effective health you would've had through potions would've gone up from 450 (3x150) to 600 (4x150).

After he got you low, you stayed in lane long enough to pick up a kill together with (which was well done), but you then recalled with 800 gold to buy a , a Sight Ward (always good) and some extra s, which was not really as effective as before because by now had 5 s himself.
I realise is a good item on , but considering how aggressive was and how much trouble you had (and undoubtedly still were going to have even after killing him) in lane, getting an item that grants 200 extra mana was never going to help out. Getting a , an early or even a would've been a much better choice as all of the stats provided by those items were going to help you dealing with 's damage. The extra health from a Doran's item would've also made it harder for and to dive you like they did (not much you could've done apart from staying back more as Mundo was spotted by your ward before he ganked).
With about 600 gold after that death, you bought an ; again not an item that was going to help out much.

Yes, might be a lot stronger than he was and I'm not saying you would've easily won had you bought a Doran's item, but buying items like or when being behind just won't help as much. A might be good on him, that doesn't mean the individual items which it builds from are good too.

I realise you would've lost the game anyway because of your bot lane feeding , but I figured I'd just share that bit of advice. Building up to 2 s early is fine (it's also good when you're winning, btw, just because it's so cost-effective) and even a can be really good to get early.

As for your jungle game after that, I only saw the first couple of minutes (your first jungle clear), but you should always get wolves before blue buff, just get some help from your teammates and your wolves should be down before blue spawns (same goes for wraiths and red if you decide to start there).
Also, always focus the big golem, the wolf in the middle and the blue wraith first as they deal the most damage to you.
Nice top gank for fb though ^^

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