It's possible it's just a bug, I see no reason for Riot to remove it
edit: nvm I just saw the post, I thought it was a link to an image on S@20 that said Deathfire was also removed
edit: nvm I just saw the post, I thought it was a link to an image on S@20 that said Deathfire was also removed
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WTF riot
Syndra is gonna need increased damage on her ultimate now
Ahri is definitely gonna need damage buffs all around the board
AP eve needs to be a thing again. She was fine with her previous nerfs. Gutting dfg into what it is now and then nerfing ap eve like heck at the same time was stupid. Also, I never thought a champion manipulating the shadows, lurking in stealth and preying on opponents would end up... hopelessly running up to them and using 1 tiny skill to whittle them down while being nothing more than a meatshield. She should be an ap assassin imo :<
Veigar already has a **** ton of burst but he will need some help deleting tanks in 1 combo, maybe add some sort of %health magic damage on one of his skills?
Annie could use some base damage buffs to compensate for the lack of burst.
It was good on mid lissandra if you needed extra burst. I don't care if riot designed her as a CC mage, sacrificing some of your defense to better be able to delete 1 target was an okay trade. I can't really say "buff lissandra" cause she's in a very delicate spot right now though.
I bought dfg on diana from time to time. Timing your third passive enhanced auto attack with DFG>Q>ULT was more or less a oneshot combo >_>
Poor katarina :( Maybe make her more teamfight oriented rather than an assassin? She really needed dfg to kill people by the end of her ult channel. This will **** up her resets and hurt her quite bad
Mordekaiser gets hurt pretty bad :/
TBH most mage champions got hurt pretty bad with this. DFG was one of the only 3 items providing 120 ap, and also a decent amount of cdr (10%) that was very efficient at rounding up the cdr without reaching over the cap. If a replacement item with similar ap values doesn't come out then I'll be pissed >_>
Syndra is gonna need increased damage on her ultimate now
Ahri is definitely gonna need damage buffs all around the board
AP eve needs to be a thing again. She was fine with her previous nerfs. Gutting dfg into what it is now and then nerfing ap eve like heck at the same time was stupid. Also, I never thought a champion manipulating the shadows, lurking in stealth and preying on opponents would end up... hopelessly running up to them and using 1 tiny skill to whittle them down while being nothing more than a meatshield. She should be an ap assassin imo :<
Veigar already has a **** ton of burst but he will need some help deleting tanks in 1 combo, maybe add some sort of %health magic damage on one of his skills?
Annie could use some base damage buffs to compensate for the lack of burst.
It was good on mid lissandra if you needed extra burst. I don't care if riot designed her as a CC mage, sacrificing some of your defense to better be able to delete 1 target was an okay trade. I can't really say "buff lissandra" cause she's in a very delicate spot right now though.
I bought dfg on diana from time to time. Timing your third passive enhanced auto attack with DFG>Q>ULT was more or less a oneshot combo >_>
Poor katarina :( Maybe make her more teamfight oriented rather than an assassin? She really needed dfg to kill people by the end of her ult channel. This will **** up her resets and hurt her quite bad
Mordekaiser gets hurt pretty bad :/
TBH most mage champions got hurt pretty bad with this. DFG was one of the only 3 items providing 120 ap, and also a decent amount of cdr (10%) that was very efficient at rounding up the cdr without reaching over the cap. If a replacement item with similar ap values doesn't come out then I'll be pissed >_>
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Are you serious Xeres?
The only bad thing to come out of this is you can't use it to build offmeta AP builds anymore. RIP my AP Zac T_T
The only bad thing to come out of this is you can't use it to build offmeta AP builds anymore. RIP my AP Zac T_T
That's because it was nerfed, not because it was useless on champions. I can think 9 (meta-based) champions off the top of my head that could use the item pretty effectively if it wasn't nerfed.
this wasn't just an item for **** like AP tristana, ap zac, or ap malphite. It actually had practical uses on mages if it wasn't nerfed into the ground
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I'm more than serious. Half the ap champions in the game built dfg, quite a hefty amount were balanced around dfg and an item cooldown was a good way to control (and balance) assassins.
How do you think they're gonna balance things like Ahri, Leblanc and Veigar? Instead of being able to 100-0 someone every 90 seconds when dfg is off cooldown, they either have to be able to 100-0 people everytime their R is off cooldown or not be able to 100-0 people at all.
What about katarina? What is she supposed to do if her team doesn't have a 5 sec AoE lockdown?
The mages who have alternative paths (Syndra, annie, lissandra) won't really be hurt by this change, although it does remove variety and pigeonholes them in to a "sustained" damage/aoe CC role rather than letting them delete people when the situation calls for it.
Everyone celebrating never really explained why they were glad the item got removed, neither did they show concern for the health of the champions who were balanced around it. All I saw is "yay, an item that annoyed me is removed woot woot"
How do you think they're gonna balance things like Ahri, Leblanc and Veigar? Instead of being able to 100-0 someone every 90 seconds when dfg is off cooldown, they either have to be able to 100-0 people everytime their R is off cooldown or not be able to 100-0 people at all.
What about katarina? What is she supposed to do if her team doesn't have a 5 sec AoE lockdown?
The mages who have alternative paths (Syndra, annie, lissandra) won't really be hurt by this change, although it does remove variety and pigeonholes them in to a "sustained" damage/aoe CC role rather than letting them delete people when the situation calls for it.
Everyone celebrating never really explained why they were glad the item got removed, neither did they show concern for the health of the champions who were balanced around it. All I saw is "yay, an item that annoyed me is removed woot woot"
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Here is my proof:http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/OE0qiqpg-deathfire-grasp-has-been-removed-from-summoners-rift-on-the-pbe
What are your guys thoughts on this?