AP Fizz transformed into AD Fizz?

[quote=Joxuu]I can agree on the fact that AP [[fizz]] is not op anymore. It's still decent but the laning phase was made so much worse with Q + W changes. Is it much more worth now to be tanky and focus on % damage from W? These are the changes: [img=http://i.gyazo.com/902e56d4f6015406461273da1a16afcf.png width=400] The new [[fizz]] build is something along these lines: Max W->E->Q, AD heavier masteries, AD/AS runes [[trinity force]], [[blade of the ruined king]], [[mercury's treads]]/[[sorcerer's shoes]], [[frozen heart]]/[[randuin's omen]], [[banshee's veil]], [[guardian angel]] [[warmog's armor]] seems quite popular too and it would replace one of the damage items, most likely [[trinity force]]. I'm interested to try this out. Has anyone been playing this way yet? Few streamers are calling it op.[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha]It's funny because when Feral Flare was still a thing, I saw this [[Fizz]] build used a lot for jungle [[Fizz]]. Granted, I know that top lane [[fizz]] is the more popular variant of this build. It's incredibly strong. The build essentially makes him a bruiser who is on the higher end of the spectrum of damage and mobility. It's a pain in the ass as well to play against, since he's both tanky and can avoid damage. Only issue is that the early game is pretty much without any lane presence whatsoever.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]The thing is AP [[fizz]] has even less pressure atm. Trying out jungle [[fizz]] with tankier rotation atm.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Yeah AD Fizz is pretty stronk atm. Played it a few times and played against it. If he so much as gets an edge on you, he outdamages you due to his W.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]Yeah, it's really good. The changes they made to his W, specifically changing the "% of missing HP" from a DoT to straight up on-hit damage, makes him scale extremely well on attack speed. Trinity Force -> BotRK, the mana helps make up for his huge E mana cost until he has [[frozen heart]], also gives some attack speed, and of course the triforce proc does a lot of damage too. Then BotRK and then [[frozen heart]] into more tanky items. I would use Ionians because of the lower E cooldown, and he also doesn't do much damage if his W isn't up.[/quote]

[quote=TROLLing1999]I have been experimenting a lot and I can say Iceborn Gauntlet is also quite strong on him imo[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Like I always said before this change, but nobody wanted to listen...[/quote]

[quote=Zordagoth]Nah you said something like "most op bruiser in the history" plot twist, he's not. He's strong for sure, but you raised him as a god :p[/quote]