I want to be a Blitzball wrote:
Also, what made 
Warwick land in the R.I.P category? Wasn't he subpar again since they changed devourer/skirmisher?
Warwick land in the R.I.P category? Wasn't he subpar again since they changed devourer/skirmisher?WW has the same disadvantage as Xin. Both of them are AA reliant champions which means any kind of CC delete them and you know if they don't get early kills they are useless.
Warwick isn't exactly the strongest pick but I think you guys are undervaluing him. Just build Stalker's Blade - Cinderhulk or Skirmisher's Sabre - Cinderhulk and Frozen Heart and he's already pretty useful. He has really really strong post 6 ganks and when you build him really tanky, you can afford to ult after CC is used if someone else initiates.
Obviously if they have a million interrupts he's a bit harder to play, but a lot of pretty strong champions (LeBlanc, Kass, Katarina) can be shut down by hard CC, so that weakness doesn't inherently make him awful.
Stalker's Blade - Cinderhulk or Skirmisher's Sabre - Cinderhulk and Frozen Heart and he's already pretty useful. He has really really strong post 6 ganks and when you build him really tanky, you can afford to ult after CC is used if someone else initiates.Obviously if they have a million interrupts he's a bit harder to play, but a lot of pretty strong champions (LeBlanc, Kass, Katarina) can be shut down by hard CC, so that weakness doesn't inherently make him awful.
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PsiGuard wrote:
Warwick isn't exactly the strongest pick but I think you guys are undervaluing him. Just build Stalker's Blade - Cinderhulk or Skirmisher's Sabre - Cinderhulk and Frozen Heart and he's already pretty useful. He has really really strong post 6 ganks and when you build him really tanky, you can afford to ult after CC is used if someone else initiates.
Obviously if they have a million interrupts he's a bit harder to play, but a lot of pretty strong champions (LeBlanc, Kass, Katarina) can be shut down by hard CC, so that weakness doesn't inherently make him awful.
Stalker's Blade - Cinderhulk or Skirmisher's Sabre - Cinderhulk and Frozen Heart and he's already pretty useful. He has really really strong post 6 ganks and when you build him really tanky, you can afford to ult after CC is used if someone else initiates.Obviously if they have a million interrupts he's a bit harder to play, but a lot of pretty strong champions (LeBlanc, Kass, Katarina) can be shut down by hard CC, so that weakness doesn't inherently make him awful.
This is why God created
Morgana.
jhoijhoi wrote:
Also, I think the levels of immorality in this thread are astounding. You'd really throw a child off a boat for your own luggage? Wow.
That's why I'm surprised that WW is placed in the trash tier. If Riv, Yi and Fiora are in tier 3, why isn't WW there? He's clearly stronger than them, considering junglers without reliable cc aren't that great
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That is probably mostly because riot went like: Let's completly overnerf a champion for no ******* reason.
WW has the same disadvantage as Xin. Both of them are AA reliant champions which means any kind of CC delete them and you know if they don't get early kills they are useless.
That sounds Udyr to me.
One thing people complain about is that Infinite Duress does not apply Black Cleaver. Well, after you got Blade of the Ruined King, that has changed. I also like to get Iceborn Gauntlet(if I got Cinderhulk instead of Devourer, otherwise Randuin's Omen) and Wit's End into the combo. Gauntlet adds a good AoE tick for Black Cleaver and gives very valuable CC.
Blian wrote:
WW has the same disadvantage as Xin. Both of them are AA reliant champions which means any kind of CC delete them and you know if they don't get early kills they are useless.
That sounds
Udyr to me.One thing people complain about is that
Infinite Duress does not apply Black Cleaver. Well, after you got Blade of the Ruined King, that has changed. I also like to get Iceborn Gauntlet(if I got Cinderhulk instead of Devourer, otherwise Randuin's Omen) and Wit's End into the combo. Gauntlet adds a good AoE tick for Black Cleaver and gives very valuable CC.
NicknameMy wrote:
That is probably mostly because riot went like: Let's completly overnerf a champion for no ******* reason.
I don't know, with how his win rate was looking at the start of the season, it was pretty justified. There was a reason. I do agree, they kind of overkilled him.
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