Better Xin Build (XIN JUNGLE)

[quote=TheOBJop]With the new meta, Xin is a great counter to all the tanks being played.. I'm just wondering, why do you choose BORK on Xin? Here's my reasoning for why you shouldn't take BORK on Xin: - You get Chilling smite - Not enough damage (Early game it's decent) - No Armor pen, I get that it has the 8% steal, but you can't shred tanks I get a Youmuu's and I'm just wanting a general better build for Xin Zhao jungle. I prefer crit on him since it give me even more damage from my autos and if you have the pen from Youmuu's and Warrior enchant, you can delete tanks. My current build: Stalker's Blade - Warrior Youmuu's Ghostblade Black Cleaver Stattik Shiv Randuin's Omen/Sprit Visage (Depending on teamcomp, ofc) Boots This is coming from a Bronze, so don't expect much. The problem with this build is that it's too expensive.. Same with the build that includes TriForce. But ofc this could just me being a bad jungler and not getting enough farm from the jungle...[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN]I don't understand how Chilling Smite is a reason not to get a Blade (I'm not saying you should get it, though). Also, I think [[enchantment: devourer]] is better on [[Xin Zhao]], but then again, I haven't played him in months. Also, your passive already shreds your target's armour, so why do you build a [[black cleaver]]?[/quote]

[quote=Ekki][quote=Re4XN]I don't understand how Chilling Smite is a reason not to get a Blade (I'm not saying you should get it, though). Also, I think [[enchantment: devourer]] is better on [[Xin Zhao]], but then again, I haven't played him in months. Also, your passive already shreds your target's armour, so why do you build a [[black cleaver]]?[/quote] IDK about the enchantment, but slows don't stack well (they won't stack at all by 5.13), while the penetrations stack multiplicatively. I guess you could still use those slows more often, but all in all you'd be getting subpar utility. EDIT: Come to think about it, if you want an anti-tank xin you may still want to build the BoRK as a 4th-5th item. Tanks start to get big late-game, and BoRK is by far your best weapon against them. Just remember to chain the slows (don't smite and BoRK at the same time), so you actually get some value out of that.[/quote]

[quote=TheOBJop][quote=Ekki] EDIT: Come to think about it, if you want an anti-tank xin you may still want to build the BoRK as a 4th-5th item. Tanks start to get big late-game, and BoRK is by far your best weapon against them. Just remember to chain the slows (don't smite and BoRK at the same time), so you actually get some value out of that.[/quote] I've checked my stats in ranked games and I do faaarrr better when I do this. I start with a Youmuu's and then get Triforce.. This way, with my runes, I get 30% crit (up from 25%) which gives me enough probability that I will crit, also the Spellblade passive that TriForce gives me so it crits for 200% autoattack damage, effectively hitting for, roughly, 300% in one auto if it crits. I'm still considering Youmuu's as a secondary item though as TriForce's first Passive makes it so I gain movement speed on autoattacks, I could also use chilling smite to slow them, then I also get a major powerspike in my damage when I use an ability which procs Spellblade. I don't believe Devourer works on Xin. Take it like this, you get attack speed from other items and your W increases your attack speed, so why get Devourer when you can just use your W and have +40 AD and CDR, which is somewhat important to keep up the fight, armor pen is a bonus too. Ofc it does stack but I can't find the time to keep farming stacks throughout the game.. Maybe I will try devourer with BORK, that might work. EDIT: After extensive testing BORK/Devourer works, but I wouldn't prefer it, you really need a maw to bring it all together to do more damage, that's it's main problem.. You have the attack speed, but no damage, I was 60 stacks but it still did nothing. It wasn't until I built a Bloodthirster that I actually started doing damage.[/quote]

[quote=TheOBJop]Alright, since the release of the new devourer in 5.13, it's the only way to go. It triggers on-hit effects twice which includes the TriForce Spellblade passive.. 300% damage is awesome![/quote]

[quote=LevasK][quote=TheOBJop]Alright, since the release of the new devourer in 5.13, it's the only way to go. It triggers on-hit effects twice which includes the TriForce Spellblade passive.. 300% damage is awesome![/quote]It doesn't, or it shouldn't trigger Spellblade passive, because it has an internal cooldown and procs after using an ability.[/quote]

[quote=TheOBJop]All I know is I do 200 damage normal hit.. 400 damage when Triforce procs 600 damage when Triforce + Devourer, I guess it doesn't proc it twice, it's just my triforce counts as a hit plus the second hit Devourer gives..[/quote]

[quote=Ekki]Well yeah, spellblade ([[sheen]] effect), [[siphoning strike]], [[rolling thunder]] and others are empowered basic attacks. That means that the charge is consumed, so devourer won't proc it twice. That said, sated devourer will be super strong on [[xin zhao]]. You will be able to proc Q knockback in 2 hits, W healing in 2 hits and other on-hits like [[blade of the ruined king]] or [[black cleaver]] would be stronger.[/quote]