7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0][quote=FalseoGod][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]What item do you replace with [[Enchantment: Runeglaive]] exactly?[/quote] What would you generally build? I'm guessing the final build goes along the lines of: boots, void staff, rabadon, abyssal, zhonya, runeglaive. Rune is probably the 1st or 2nd item, depending if you need to rush abyssal or zhonya[/quote] Then you have to leave out Luden's or Lich Bane to make Runeglaive fit.[/quote] The question is now, is Runeglaive worth it over the movement speed combo of Luden's and Lich Bane which makes boots obsolete and allows you to get 1 more offensive item?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]shen support added still no clue about diana sry lol hard to gauge how im feeling exactly since it doesnt really hurt unless I use it, and I was advised by a doctor to stop using it. played a game to stop decay a few days ago though and it didnt feel great but I felt some improvement at least.[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce]ay, that's good to hear. Get better soon :)[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]So, which champs can be successfully played with [[enchantment: Runeglaive]] + [[Nashor's Tooth]] in the mid lane? And which laners are strong with it now, but no longer strong if the damage is no longer turned into magic damage and the AoE doesn't apply to minions and champions. The strongest second one should be [[twisted fate]], makes him very early already the splitpush monster he truly is and we know [[stacked deck]] can dish out a lot of damage if procced often. [[kayle]], nuff said :D. AP [[miss fortune]] can actually use it really well and with the next patch her main dmg spell, E, gets buffed as it deals its damage in a 1 second shorter duration. [[ezreal]], obviously, as his [[mystic shot]] procs both, he even has his own AS steroid for clutch situations and lower cooldowns with that 20% should be strong on him as well. That 20% should make the item stronger than [[rabadon's deathcap]] at this point, but it should definitly come after the combo. AP [[ezreal]] should be rather dead after that change, but [[orianna]], [[twisted fate]] and [[kayle]] should still be really strong with that combo as they don't lack waveclear.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]probably fine on kayle, but doubt u can get away with it mid, maybe jungle not worth at all on tf. if you ever try to spam autos in a fight you'll get dropped before you can react, and tf really doesnt want to take smite either ezreal gonna suck with changes and nashors not good on him anyway think its meh on ori, the cdr makes it maybe worth it i guess? idk, i doubt anyone but poe will ever build it, runeglaive nashors just doesnt seem good at all p.s. ludens + lich is expensive as fuck and still doesnt let you skip boots comfortably. ms is too important a stat on mids even if you were to finish ludens + lich before fights started, which you definitely wont unless you are so fed the game is over anyway.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]The same thing people said about [[muramana]] on [[varus]] or AP [[Kog'Maw]], yea, look at them now :D. He explained his build after the game. Basically, [[enchantment: Runeglaive]]'s mana sustain is a better alternative to [[Athene's Unholy Grail]] and together with [[nashor's tooth]], you have a rather cheap core build that spikes earlier than other builds. Not only that, you don't really loose AP for that as Runeglaive has 50 and Nashor's 80. And, the tower pushing potential and general splitpush potential is huge, as we saw in that match. The 1/3/1 Gambit tried starting got pushed down very quickly. This strategy is way more Competetive than Solo Queue tho, except if you can splitpush all day. It needs the low coordination UoL has or more in order to work :D.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]what? ap kog has always been good if he got going. the meta shifted and he doesnt need to worry about extreme lane bullies or assassins anymore so he shines. muramana on varus is an awful item, its literally only built because there is no other mana regen ad item, so he has to default to muramana, and hes in the same vein as kog. meta shifts and assassin nerfs pushed him into viability.[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=H4xDefender]muramana on varus is an awful item, its literally only built because there is no other mana regen ad item, so he has to default to muramana,.[/quote] Bingo. To further add to it, the only reason why Varus is popular is because of how strong that Piercing Arrow poke is. His current build that's popular is adapted from an ARAM build, a place where you want to be able to sustain a lot and just constantly chuck out poke. Muramana has little synergy with him otherwise.[/quote]

[quote=bitpik]I think Kayle could be a tier 1 toplaner at the moment. The E buff made a difference, nashor's got buffed and Rylai is insane. Have nothing to back it up with as I've only played one game but she's a lot stronger than before.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Anyone have any thoughts on the Athenes Guise Rylai build that Ganked By Mom used to run on [[orianna]] back in 2013? I reckon it might be better since both Guise and Rylai got massively buffed, but I'm not too sure myself, having only tried it twice. Having said that, the new Rylai's is extremely strong and I like it a lot on Nidalee, where if you poke someone your teammates can follow up / you can chain with more spears.[/quote]