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[quote=Jack Rubino]The fuck did i just carry [img=http://puu.sh/jHzt7/f0e0273c40.jpg][/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][img=http://i.imgur.com/pSSCRhl.png width=900] [img=http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-10/26/6/enhanced/webdr08/enhanced-14836-1414320930-8.jpg width=400][/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][img width=900]http://i.imgur.com/7QT8lbp.jpg[/img] Master :)[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]Congrats![/quote]

[quote=Jack Rubino]#grats[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN][img=http://s2.postimg.org/saqrdmvx5/Untitled.png] 1st game after almost 2 weeks. Looks like I still got my Mundo Mojo. I was very happy with this game, despite it being a defeat. Everyone was flaming early game because bot lane got babysit by [[master yi]], but I was able to win my lane and carry hard in teamfights (throwing cleavers at everyone's faces) along with [[cassiopeia]]. The game was going pretty well for us, but she managed to die bot lane and they pushed super hard... no recovery was possible. Managed to test [[Sterak's Gage]] ([b]AND[/b] the new [[garen]] matchup). Really, really like this item on [[dr. mundo]]. It saved my life 2 times in that game and the shield is just amazing. The extra AD is unnecessary but also nice. Still need to test [[titanic hydra]]. The urge to build one this game was huge, but [[master yi]] made me change my mind :([/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]I dont fully understand why you're not getting [[thornmail]] in such games[/quote]

[quote=RottedApples][img=https://i.gyazo.com/f8715fc992bbf13d7d4eccbe9112952b.png] whats a tear?[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN][quote=Vynertje]I dont fully understand why you're not getting thornmail in such games[/quote] :( I was actually considering it, but I wasn't completely sure if it was still worth it (in this game) after the nerf. We had no problems whatsoever dealing with Yi and Ashe (Ashe was 14 when I got 18) and everybody else. I don't know... [[Dead Man's Plate]] seemed like a better choice, because we had Baron Buff and we were pushing. Looks like I've got to improve my purchases...[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=Re4XN][quote=Vynertje]I dont fully understand why you're not getting thornmail in such games[/quote] :( I was actually considering it, but I wasn't completely sure if it was still worth it (in this game) after the nerf. We had no problems whatsoever dealing with Yi and Ashe (Ashe was 14 when I got 18) and everybody else. I don't know... [[Dead Man's Plate]] seemed like a better choice, because we had Baron Buff and we were pushing. Looks like I've got to improve my purchases...[/quote] Randuins + Thornmail was pretty core purchase here if you ask me, because they had like 4 members dealing AA damage of some sort. I think my build in this game would've looked something like: [[sunfire cape]] => [[mercury's treads]] / [[ninja tabi]] => [[spirit visage]] => [[randuin's omen]] => [[thornmail]] => [[warmog's armor]] / [[dead man's plate]]. I don't know enough of the [[dead man's plate]] to judge, but it seems inferior to Randuins Omen on full tanks like Mundo. What I do know is that offensive items are very poor on Mundo in general; [[frozen mallet]], [[Sterak's Gage]] are all quite poor buys. Thornmail 'nerfs' seem pretty irrelevant for full tanks because if you have like +200 bonus armour it's still going to be quite a lot. [spoiler]Doing some thornmail math here; Let's assume an average of 500 damage (before resistances) on AA's. That's about the average a full built ADC with 50% crit deals. 15% of that is 75, 30% is 150. Right now with 200 bonus armour, you deal 50 extra damage, with 300 bonus you deal 75. Now assuming you get Sunfire Cape + Randuins + Thornmail, that's about 220-250 bonus armour if you include runes/masteries. It's easy to see that the nerfs are rather minor at this point. In short: you break even at 300 bonus armour. At 200 bonus armour it's approximately a 17% damage nerf, assuming a late game scenario with 4-item ADC's. [/spoiler][/quote]