7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=NicknameMy][[fervor of battle]] Damage per stack based on level increased to 1-14 from 1-12 Okay, WW is gonna oneshot you again.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=NicknameMy][[fervor of battle]] Damage per stack based on level increased to 1-14 from 1-12 Okay, WW is gonna oneshot you again.[/quote] But remember that the max is 8 stacks on the PBE, not 10. I don't think his ability to deliever damage to a single squishy target has ever been in question. The issues with him involve his weakness to cc in team fights and his inability to burst down a tank, of which there are many right now.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=MungoGeri][quote=NicknameMy][[fervor of battle]] Damage per stack based on level increased to 1-14 from 1-12 Okay, WW is gonna oneshot you again.[/quote] But remember that the max is 8 stacks on the PBE, not 10. I don't think his ability to deliever damage to a single squishy target has ever been in question. The issues with him involve his weakness to cc in team fights and his inability to burst down a tank, of which there are many right now.[/quote] Don't forget that he has no pressure in the jungle before 6, and even after 6 it could be considered mediocre compared to some junglers that spike at 6 (i.e. vi).[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=NicknameMy][[fervor of battle]] Damage per stack based on level increased to 1-14 from 1-12 Okay, WW is gonna oneshot you again.[/quote] Man, understatement of the year, right?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]warwicks problem isnt that he doesnt do enough damage, his problem is everything else, (not counting sustain) which is why he is bad. strength of the ages isn't restricted to be only good on tank junglers. i run it on a lot of my warrior junglers that transition into tank afterwards as well. lee sin excluded since he needs to snowball early. im on the fence about reksai, need to test her more. energy is always better than having mana. period. lee sin also has better sustain and level 2 gank pressure than elise. they deal similar damage, although lee actually does a bit more in most scenarios. she clears a bit faster but it isnt by much. lee has a better teamfight at the cost of having worse siege. the difference between the two really isn't by much. removed the j4 in tier 1. zac is insanely good right now, yes. brand is too risky to be tier 1 tryn and jayce suck yes rumble is easy as fuck to gank, and becomes useless really fast when he falls behind. gnar is just hard to play around since when he wants to go in is so telegraphed. devourer rengar sucks, you do 0 damage and don't want to be farming that much anyway ap naut mid is garbage, you give way too many champs that outscale you a free lane. runeglaive nautilus jungle doesn't seem TERRIBLE though. added quinn to top/mid/jungle/ad and moved a few champs around[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]What caused Jayce to become bad? :[[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]oh i just meant at support but hes pretty bad everywhere else too since tear stack takes too much time, brutalizer got removed, and last whisper sucks. basically all of his items took a hit, and he just takes years to scale up to never kill tanks anyway.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]what keystone would you even run on jayce? They all seem like terrible options except for Deathfire touch which is pretty underwhelming[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0][quote=Mooninites]what keystone would you even run on jayce? They all seem like terrible options except for Deathfire touch which is pretty underwhelming[/quote] Wouldn't you run Fervor or Thunderlords?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]thunderlords or grasp of the undying. depends on whether u can auto the enemy laner or not.[/quote]