So new Poppy sucks...

[quote=TheSilverDust]Where does [[Poppy]] belong, Riot? Tell us. You're making your terminology complicated.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Why the fuck does this matter Whether she's a juggernaut or a bruiser doesn't matter and doesn't contribute to the discussion[/quote]

[quote=MrMad2000]I'd say that [[poppy]] fills a similar role to [[pantheon]]. She's a more bruiser-tank, decent all round champion who doesn't really specialize in anything (and the only unique thing about her is the gimmicky ult and her W). [rule] Also, I wouldn't say new [[poppy]] sucks but I think she's weaker than what she should be in the areas that are usually generic for a bruiser (such as dueling or pushing) but all in all she's viable.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=tehAsian]Why the fuck does this matter Whether she's a juggernaut or a bruiser doesn't matter and doesn't contribute to the discussion[/quote] This. I wish [[Poppy]] was in a better state right now, she seems fun but she's not really worth picking up as a top laner atm. Does anyone know what they plan to change about her? Increased Q range/AoE? Lower cooldown on her passive? (if not, feel free to talk about what they [i]should[/i] change instead)[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Wayne3100][quote=tehAsian]Why the fuck does this matter Whether she's a juggernaut or a bruiser doesn't matter and doesn't contribute to the discussion[/quote] This. I wish [[Poppy]] was in a better state right now, she seems fun but she's not really worth picking up as a top laner atm. Does anyone know what they plan to change about her? Increased Q range/AoE? Lower cooldown on her passive? (if not, feel free to talk about what they [i]should[/i] change instead)[/quote] Havent seen them talking about her or any changes on the PBE. This likely indicates that shes currently decently healthy, gameplay wise. I personally think she could use a small decrease to her E or W mana costs (Probably E), and removal of the damage reduction to creeps on her Q. [spoiler=one last thing about the juggernaut vs tank/bruiser thing] @goodplayz I explained that well enough, so I don't have to choose one. I said that Riot defined the roles well enough (whichever group of people within riot that did so) and that whoever wrote the article about her likely made an oversight with their word usage, and thus in the the regard of definitions by single members of Riot (Who may or may not have had any say in the previous verification of what each role means), they can't be trusted. And I agree this is a pointless topic, but it did keep the thread going long enough for Wayne to put it back into an actually interesting direction, so thanks for that. [/spoiler][/quote]

[quote=oxide110]I actually think she is in a great spot right now in the jungle.[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend][quote=oxide110]I actually think she is in a great spot right now in the jungle.[/quote]THIS I've been jungling her since release and it's lots of fun. Switched to [[skirmisher's sabre - warrior]] for now and then just straight in the tanky / bruiser items. Her burst is insanely good for a tank and her cooldowns are short enough to stay relevant during the whole fight. Also the ultimate is getting pretty cool the more I get used to it. I don't see a need to buff her at all. I don't like her at top lane though, no reliable way to farm.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]^ I think most tanks deal a deceptive amount of damage as junglers early game. I've dueled midlaners and junglers like Lee Sin with [[nautilus]] going full tank easily. Zac, Volibear, Mundo, Maokai and Amumu all can hurt quite a nice bit if used to their full potential up until a certain point of the game. Their main issue becomes dealing with good sustain as their damage falls down due to no damage items or poor scallings.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Poppy is balanced, it is just that most other champs are broken and/or op atm.[/quote]

[quote=CluelessMagic]Her Ult can decides team fights, making it an easy 5 vs 4 :)[/quote]