Vynertje's Support AMA and advice thread

[quote=Vynertje]Video commentary for trundle: [embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jugbjsZ4wEw] Quality is shit because it's still processing, hoping for it to improve soon.[/quote]

[quote=I want to be a Blitzball]For some reason my warding is pretty bad, only being at around 16 wards per game. I tend to roam and lace wards in their jungle and so on, but my ward count is still pretty low. Do you have any tips on how to improve my warding?[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Just try to constantly look at the map and try have those 3 greens + 1 pink at the map 24/7. Also, don't be afraid just to base for sightstone stacks and pink wards.[/quote]

[quote=Blian][[Lissandra]] support with [[Relic Shield]] and [[Bond of Stone]] becoming a thing now? I've already seen it several times in soloQ and now also in LCK.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Just had a look at the match history stats for the Sbenu vs CJE game, I find it hard to believe it is good but I'm going to have to do some further research.[/quote]

[quote=MrMad2000]Once you've researched enough into it, can you tell me how it is good? I will just refuse to believe until someone provides me a list of why it is strong, and why the pick is worth being chosen over others. I used to play Lissandra as a support quite a bit actually, (probably about 20 games, so not many but enough to make a good enough judgment) and [b]everything she has, another support can do better[/b]. [spoiler=Other irrelevant reasons why I think Liss sucks] [list] [*]High mana costs, low mana pool, low base mana regen. [*]Low tank stats. [*]Low range. [*]Very low mobility. Once you CC her during the casting of [[glacial room]], she is a sitting duck because it's a 20 second cooldown. [*]Base damage is decent, provided you get magic penetration and buy AP along with it. [*]She has 4 different CC effects tied to 3 different abilities. Only 2 of them are utilized. [*]Whilst she can help her team or ADC kite, champions such as [[trundle]] also come to mind. [*]Engage is predictable, and she has a very weak pre 6. [*][[frozen tomb]] has a really long cooldown at rank 1. [*]You can't have any lane presence or early game pressure unless you become a damage threat, or have the opportunity to leave your ADC bot and go missing, roaming and ganking through walls. You'll probably die though because you'll be a lower level. [*]Lissandra is pretty level dependent. Morgana, Soraka, Janna, Sona, Nami and Bard all still do their job at level 3 with points in their basic skills. They might not do it as effectively compared to if they were maxed, but they are still useful. Lissandra on the other hand [b]only[/b] has her W. Her Q and E is rather useless.[/quote]

[quote=R4GE]What should a support do when their ADC is making many mistakes during laning (getting hit by every skillshot, dying a bunch etc)? When this happens I try my best to protect him and get him out of sticky situations but sometimes it's impossible.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]If he plays like shit there's nothing you can do about it. All you can do is try to avoid falling too far behind and preventing the enemy botlane from snowballing the rest of the team. Try to defend your ADC as good as you can, but also try to ward defensively so the botlane can't roam mid and get free kills there. Also, if possible, try to help out other lanes if you can leave your ADC.[/quote]

[quote=Shuru]Liss is a level one damage threat with her q on a short cool down and her passive gives her free spell casts. She can also be tough to trade with because if she throws it at you and backs off the slow keeps you from catching up. Just my thoughts on it from a loss top ayer, someone may have better insight.[/quote]

[quote=R4GE][quote=Vynertje]If he plays like shit there's nothing you can do about it. All you can do is try to avoid falling too far behind and preventing the enemy botlane from snowballing the rest of the team. Try to defend your ADC as good as you can, but also try to ward defensively so the botlane can't roam mid and get free kills there. Also, if possible, try to help out other lanes if you can leave your ADC.[/quote] Thanks for the response! I've been doing exactly what you said, I'm just conflicted about when to leave my ADC. My ADC always dies whenever I leave him alone for example to ward so I feel forced to stay by his side so he won't die.[/quote]