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Creator: VexRoth January 26, 2015 10:41pm
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I’ll add to the decision tree?

Tower?
Dragon?
Gank?
Counter jungle?
Farm?

I'm certainly doing something wrong. But I am not sure exactly what. Last season I was able to climb relatively steadily. Each little bit of knowledge adding up to better play and more consistent outcomes. Right now it feels like something is off.


To answer your question from a while back, something I like to do when I kill a solo lane is deep ward around that area. It gives you opportunities to set up counterganks ( Shyvana is probably one of the best countergankers in the game), and also give your lanes more safety to push with their lead further.
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utopus wrote:


To answer your question from a while back, something I like to do when I kill a solo lane is deep ward around that area. It gives you opportunities to set up counterganks ( Shyvana is probably one of the best countergankers in the game), and also give your lanes more safety to push with their lead further.


Deep warding. Added to the list. Thanks! :-)

Out of curiosity. Can you describe your methodology? I find that unless I go Tracker's Knife I just don't have the wards to place deep in their jungle as on someone like Shyvana who can pretty much only run into lanes I need Sweeping Lens to clear wards just so I can gank.

I do try to keep a pink ward out on the map at all times and have one in my inventory but that only goes so far and you have to decide if moving your ward makes sense since you can only have one of them on the map at any one time.

Then there is the decision tree of what happens if I run into the enemy junger and or enemy mid laner while trying to place those deep wards. If I can I like to take the scuttle crab before going into their jungle even though it may cost me some time in their jungle as it can help me make a get away if things turn dicey.
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I haven't jungled with Shyvana in a while, but I usually defer buying Sweeping Lens until pretty late - like level 7 or something, but that's just because I like to place down a lot of wards, and Stealth Ward enables me to do that. raptor buff is better than a Sweeping Lens in just about every way, because the raptor buff comes up on a lower cooldown, and it will tell you where your opponent's HAVEN'T warded, and by Process of Elimination (PoE) you can kind of infer where they did ward. That would be how i'd control vision during the early game.

A pink ward at your opponent's red buff brush, or the brush near wolves can usually last somewhere between 5 and 12 minutes: Quite a long time. Getting vision of the wolf brush in particular can give your teammates a good idea of where your opponent jungler is, based on PoE. You'll know that if a jungler hasn't cleared out a camp in a while, then he's probably either on the other side of the jungle, or he's looking to gank a lane away from the side of the jungle where you warded.

I try not to get very deep vision of my opponent's jungle unless I know I can get away with it. Some instances of this is when you kill a solo laner (you'll have a numbers advantage), or you see an opponent recalling (thus, enabling your solo laner to protect you by proxy), or you see your opponent jungler show somewhere else (e.g. mid lane / top lane, to clear minions)
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Almost forgot about this one. It was my 2nd Braum game in a row and came before the Alistar game. We got Kog'Maw. They didn’t pressure us much despite having Sona and a Jinx for some rocket harass. The rest of our lanes and jungle did well. GG.
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Sad day at the Leagues boyz and girlz.

Soraka game, our Mid Alistar got shat on by their Yasuo. Caitlyn and were doing fine against Miss Fortune and Malphite until level 6. Would have loved to have ended that laning phase early so we could have just started rotating.

Ekko game. Zed and I murdered their Cassiopeia a bunch but the game went on long enough that she made a comeback. She hit some good ults to prevent deaths, get some kills later in the game. Our Vladimir who I was duoing with made a slight miscalculation and got solo killed by their Tryndamere and that lane was pretty much a lost cause thereafter. Tried ganking for Bot but the enemy laners had it well warded. Would have tried a lane gank, but they had our laners pushed in almost the entire laning phase so I could't move up passed the turret.

Fizz game. Not sure why I thought that was a good idea. Farming was pain in the *** against their Swain. I picked up a few kills on him here and there and in team fights, but it was rough.

Nautilus game. Early lane went okay. Then their Kayle and their Twisted Fate got rolling and it went down hill from there.

Not sure what to do here. I definitely get some satisfaction out of winning. Losing 4 in a row kind of blows. I started preferring ranked over normals because ranked was more challenging but often winnable. This season rarely winnable seems more the norm.
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Starting the strategy of picking Jungle primary and Mid secondary. Got Mid. I got to counter pick LeBlanc. Fairly boring match-up. Leblanc let me hit a few binds on her early but didn’t make any great big mistakes or get overly aggressive. Their Lee Sin was really busy in our jungle, killing our Master Yi at our Red. But I spotted him doing our wolves so I pinged Master Yi over and we killed him together. I effectively negated LeBlanc. Got a nice roam Top to help Shyvana kill Trundle. Hit several nice Dark Bindings for picks, one against Lee Sin over a wall. Our team was able to follow-up nicely on that one and delete Lee. Caught and killed Lux with a binding while we were sieging their Mid base tower. Their Ezreal commented in All Chat after that they game that I was carrying my team late game with my play. :-)

This was a satisfying win.

Rod of Ages feels good on Morgana in the sense that it gave me sufficient mana that I never really felt the need for a mana regeneration item. Have been building things like Frost Queen's Claim when it was OP on Morgana, so was interested to see how RoA would feel.
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Good team. Got Nasus ahead early. My internet kept ****ping out of me. Snowed here last night so that may have something to do with it. Team fights became too much and I would drop after any intense fights. Dropped at least 3 maybe 4 times, but came back at good enough times to have an impact. I mostly would unload my ult and then go hunt Vayne, which kept her from working over the rest of my team. Got to delete her a few times which was satisfying. My duo partner had a great game as Nasus and was able to clean up fights and be a stalwart when the rest of us went down.
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Kind of a boring lane. Damn Yasuo’s tornado hurts even with Armor Seals. Silly thing would chunk me for a quarter of my health. And that was most of the lane. Dodging Yasuo Q’s and harassing him when I could even though it isn’t all that fruitful if the dumb shield he gets is up. Need to try and break it with an auto first. Volibear ganked for me, I got my Tibbers stun off, but Yasuo got his Q tornado off on us and ulted us and an auto or Q later I was dead, but Volibear picked up the kill on Yas. Later I roamed to Bot lane and deleted Thresh. Managed to solo kill Yasuo right after I bought my Seeker's Armguard. Had a couple of good ultimates toward the later part of the game. One in which I chunked Caitlyn big time and forced her to QSS to stay alive. They managed to kite back, but pushing them off our turret at that point was a big deal. We were doing it again not too terribly long after that and got another good ultimate off. We chased them down after that fight and managed to take all three of their inhibitors. Then rotated to Baron after backing. We pushed them off of Baron and were able to take it ourselves. We pushed in for the win but Quinn got killed so I though we would back off and wait, but my team went in full steam. Jinx took out one Nexus tower and then we got a few kills and it was pretty much just mop up from there.

The range on Yas’s ult is a little silly. I know it used to be worse, but in one fight he got chunked pretty hard early in the fight and then dashed off into the bushes and rotated around to sit in the fog of war. Cho'Gath got good Rupture off on us and Yas was able to use that to ult us from completely off screen. Annoying.

Is freaking jungle the most popular position? I have my preferences set to Jungle primary and Mid secondary and I keep getting Mid. That is forcing me to revisit my Mid picks, but I really just want to play jungle. Actually I would really like to Jungle primarily and then Fill as secondary but that just gets you support every time.
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Wukong game. Our Bot lane got wrecked again. Morgana had awful positioning and no sense. Garen was having a merry time killing people all over the place but that turned out to be problematic because he was more interested in chasing down kills then actually taking objectives and I knew were were sitting on ticking time bomb with Nasus stacking up. Their team was just going to outscale us eventually. However we were holding our own until Corki DCd. We held out for a while hoping Corki would reconnect but at the point were I could only just scratch Nasus we opted to surrender.

I died too many times this game. It felt like one of those games where your team always dies while theirs always gets away with a sliver of health and there is no one around that can follow up. Unlucky.

I think the most annoying one was when I successfully kill Brand but died to the last tick of his passive burn while I had a Refillable Potion charge that I could have used and possibly save myself if I had thought of it. Need to remember to start those potions working as soon as I start taking damage just on the off chance they are the difference between living and dying.

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Gragas game. Our Bot lane got destroyed. And Malphite ults combed with Yasuo ults and then Jhin ults for a finisher. Ouch. I killed Malph twice early game, but he got our Jax first on the second time through. We needed to team fight better with me and Nautilus up front to be a wall to prevent those, but couldn’t really get organized. At the point where they were able to 4v5 us with Master Yi off split pushing I knew we were donzo.

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This one went better. I teamed up with Fizz and we killed Yasuo three times. This let Fizz roam Bot lane to help them out. My duo partner who got tired of our Bot lanes getting stomped put our Graves in a position to succeed.

Updated Gragas is back to silly status. He feels like he actually brings more damage than he did from before they nerfed him. Though obviously going Enchantment: Runic Echoes over Enchantment: Cinderhulk means more burst. So much utility and a fair amount of damage. Also builds that give him 20+% CDR means your abilities are available practically all the time.

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