Dune0z wrote:
I have been testing a experimental build in Normals and anted to hear your thoughts, The build consists of getting a tear on your first back, then The Dark Seal right after, Rushing into a Mejais and then finishing support item and sightstone, Then depending on the game getting a Frozen Heart/Locket/Rabadons, With the goal to bring lots of utility and raw AP into the late game, And snowballing the early game. is it worth the trouble?
I'm having trouble deciding if this was a serious comment or a fascetious one. The internet desperately needs a sarcasm font. However, just in case you were serious (and we've all seen crazier before), delaying your sightstone that long will lead you to be vulnerable to constant ganks from both jungle and mid - and your resulting constant dying will make your Mejais useless.
Regarding possible support counters to
Morgana, one that I've found that may surprise people is Poppy. Unless the Morgana has super human reflexes, usually she can't get the Black Shield off in time before you've slammed either her or her lane partner into a wall. What's more, Morganas tend to like to hug walls in lane in order to give themselves the widest firing lane possible, which means that they are then vulnerable to Poppy's charge. The result is either a constantly dying Morgana or one who plays more passively and you and your adc can just farm or manipulate the lane at will.(Note: I haven't tried this since the range nerfs to
Poppy were implemented. They have the potential to hurt support Poppy quite a bit).
MungoGeri wrote:
I'm having trouble deciding if this was a serious comment or a fascetious one. The internet desperately needs a sarcasm font. However, just in case you were serious (and we've all seen crazier before), delaying your sightstone that long will lead you to be vulnerable to constant ganks from both jungle and mid - and your resulting constant dying will make your Mejais useless.
Regarding possible support counters to
Morgana, one that I've found that may surprise people is Poppy. Unless the Morgana has super human reflexes, usually she can't get the Black Shield off in time before you've slammed either her or her lane partner into a wall. What's more, Morganas tend to like to hug walls in lane in order to give themselves the widest firing lane possible, which means that they are then vulnerable to Poppy's charge. The result is either constantly dying Morgana or one who plays more passively and you and your adc can just farm or manipulate the lane at will.(Note: I haven't tried this since the range nerfs to
Poppy were implemented. They have the potential to hurt support Poppy quite a bit).I feel like it should be quite easy to E poppy's dash, generally you can see it coming and alt+e quickly for self cast. Besides that, I think it's a waste to pick poppy support now considering how good she is on top.
You don't even have to Black Shield Poppy's dash, you can throw a Dark Binding at her and ensure she's immbilised for just as long as you. It won't stop the dash though it just keeps her pinned.
If you do Black Shield yourself that way (I didn't know Alt-E was a thing) it's even worse for Poppy.
Black Shield Poppy's dash, you can throw a Dark Binding at her and ensure she's immbilised for just as long as you. It won't stop the dash though it just keeps her pinned.If you do
Black Shield yourself that way (I didn't know Alt-E was a thing) it's even worse for Poppy.
Basically MOBAFire.
Something I've been meaning to ask is, what keystone do you prefer/recommend on Thresh? I've been using Thunderlord's lately, but I saw Hybrid running Bond of Stone on Sunday when he played Thresh. Thoughts?
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I want to be a Blitzball wrote:
Something I've been meaning to ask is, what keystone do you prefer/recommend on Thresh? I've been using Thunderlord's lately, but I saw Hybrid running Bond of Stone on Sunday when he played Thresh. Thoughts?
Thunderlords is good for early lane pressure (i.e. when you are playing double ranged into a weak low ranged lane) and bond of stone is better in later moments. If you go thunderlords you have to use it to gain an early advantage otherwise bond of stone will be superior
Jimmydoggga 2.0 wrote:
You don't even have to Black Shield Poppy's dash, you can throw a Dark Binding at her and ensure she's immbilised for just as long as you. It won't stop the dash though it just keeps her pinned.
If you do Black Shield yourself that way (I didn't know Alt-E was a thing) it's even worse for Poppy.
Black Shield Poppy's dash, you can throw a Dark Binding at her and ensure she's immbilised for just as long as you. It won't stop the dash though it just keeps her pinned.If you do
Black Shield yourself that way (I didn't know Alt-E was a thing) it's even worse for Poppy.Yeah I agree, I think Poppy is pretty easy for morg to deal with as Morg can just push poppy in all day and prevent her from being able to all-in her. Poppy has to play it perfectly in order to be able to outplay morg.
Vynertje wrote:
Yeah I agree, I think Poppy is pretty easy for morg to deal with as Morg can just push poppy in all day and prevent her from being able to all-in her. Poppy has to play it perfectly in order to be able to outplay morg.
Mind you, I'm playing against Silver players, so maybe their reaction times aren't what you're used to. However, my experience has been that Poppy actually wins the lane (and I said it was surprising to me too), because the charge comes too quickly for
Morgana to spell shield and since she's stunned against the wall, she can't get her Q off on Poppy until after Poppy has completed her combo. Meanwhile, Poppy's adc is usually able to move in and get some shots off on Morgana, too. Plus, Poppy is tankier than Morgana is, so she can take the hits better than Morgana can.
MungoGeri wrote:
Mind you, I'm playing against Silver players, so maybe their reaction times aren't what you're used to. However, my experience has been that Poppy actually wins the lane (and I said it was surprising to me too), because the charge comes too quickly for
Morgana to spell shield and since she's stunned against the wall, she can't get her Q off on Poppy until after Poppy has completed her combo. Meanwhile, Poppy's adc is usually able to move in and get some shots off on Morgana, too. Plus, Poppy is tankier than Morgana is, so she can take the hits better than Morgana can.Honestly I don't really care, you might just as well be a good poppy playing versus bad morganas. Matter of fact is, low-elo games are so ****ing random (I know because I have a smurf nowadays) that you can't draw any meaningful conclusions from such games. Assuming equally skilled players, Morgana should win.
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I swear, this whole site is on drugs.
You have clearly never played support Ryze or support Brand, this guy knows what's up