Nocturne Theorycraft Thread

[quote=foggy12]just thought i'd post the recommended items here the brutalizer > youmuu's for noob clarification ;) [URL=http://img705.imageshack.us/i/33102463.png/][IMG]http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3770/33102463.png[/IMG][/URL][/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]awesome obviously i disagree with zerk greaves and bloodthirster, but youmuu's seems pretty core on him. For Summoner Spells, I'm thinking [[Ghost]] is a necessity. Other options would probably be [[Exhaust]], [[Flash]], and [[Cleanse]], in that order. If jungling, 14/0/16 masteries (21/0/9 if you're ok with a shorter red buff, 21/9/0 if you're laning). Cloth Armor+5 Health Pots Madred's Razors+Boots of Speed The Brutalizer Mercury's Treads Idk if rushing Bloodrazor is a good idea or not - Wriggles seems like a waste when he has such amazing attack speed and an increased movement speed buff to make good use of the attack speed. After Merc Treads: Infinity Edge Youmuu's Ghostblade Madred's Bloodrazor Banshee's Veil <Optional> Triforce probably isn't as good on him as it is on Shaco, to be honest. Perhaps Frozen Heart as the last item for survivability and more CDR, since his ultimate and his fear will be the real influences in a fight.[/quote]

[quote=mobrebel]Maybe he could build like jungle WW??? Madred's Bloodrazor, Berzerker's Greaves, Last Whisper, Bloodthirster, Youmuu's, Situational Item(Banshee's most likely)... -EDIT- Last Whisper could also be Wit's End[/quote]

[quote=Atheb][quote=mobrebel] Maybe he could build like jungle WW??? Madred's Bloodrazor, Berzerker's Greaves, Last Whisper, Bloodthirster, Youmuu's, Situational Item(Banshee's most likely)... -EDIT- Last Whisper could also be Wit's End [/quote] just for the rekord why do so many people build berz greaves on ww? sorcerers guys sorcerers (for more dmg on your q and madreds bloodrazor). on nocturne okay i guess...but only ok i thought on sportlight wriggles is a waste when you can get madreds with him (attackspeed pretty good on him i guess). they also tryed to sneak in wriggles on jarvan. why? youmuss (early brutalizer) sounds great, madreds too (as you will build razor for jungling) but dunno if rushing it....atm i think he will build somewhat like dps warwick. madreds-> as item -> def item -> off item atm i dunno his ratios...if something stacks with ad.[/quote]

[quote=foggy12]the phreak build looked ok for once tbh[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=Atheb] [quote=mobrebel] Maybe he could build like jungle WW??? Madred's Bloodrazor, Berzerker's Greaves, Last Whisper, Bloodthirster, Youmuu's, Situational Item(Banshee's most likely)... -EDIT- Last Whisper could also be Wit's End [/quote] just for the rekord why do so many people build berz greaves on ww? sorcerers guys sorcerers (for more dmg on your q and madreds bloodrazor). on nocturne okay i guess...but only ok i thought on sportlight wriggles is a waste when you can get madreds with him (attackspeed pretty good on him i guess). they also tryed to sneak in wriggles on jarvan. why? youmuss (early brutalizer) sounds great, madreds too (as you will build razor for jungling) but dunno if rushing it....atm i think he will build somewhat like dps warwick. madreds-> as item -> def item -> off item atm i dunno his ratios...if something stacks with ad. [/quote] Yeah, I agree with this. Wriggle's doesn't make too much sense on an assassin when Bloodrazor is pretty necessary. Razors-->Brutalizer-->Bloodrazor seems like a good order.[/quote]

[quote=Atheb]im just asking myself if any of his skills scale with ad^^ im sure the fear will go with ap. his ult and q with ad i hope. razor brutalizer bloodrazor sounds great[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Atheb] im just asking myself if any of his skills scale with ad^^ im sure the fear will go with ap. his ult and q with ad i hope. razor brutalizer bloodrazor sounds great [/quote] His W gives passive AS, and that scales with AD if that counts...[/quote]

[quote=ShadowReign757]k Summoner Spells: 1. [[ghost]] 2. [[smite]] 3. [[cleanse]] if you're not jungling. Items: 1. [[mercury's treads]] 2. [[infinity edge]] 3. [[youmuu's ghostblade]] 4. [[madred's bloodrazor]] 5. [[stark's fervor]] 6. [[banshee's veil]] Masteries: I like Jebus' idea considering I'm gonna jungle and want increased buff duration. How's that for a build on him? Just maybe in a different order. Can't wait for him to be in the database so 10 million builds can be spammed out for him...[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]I think a 20/0/10 build can work fine for getting the entirety of the buffs. That's what I use on nunu (actually I use 0/20/10, but it's the same principle).[/quote]