i maxed q second and it did pretty good

Thanks for the guide! Really do like the amount of variety of runes & builds, but the highlight for me is the extensive wall of tips and tricks you made! <3

the best runes

how would tiger build do in top lane?

op

In what situations I must switch to the turtle and back to the attack skills?

very helpful. went 12/3/8 my first try with this build. i did my skills a bit differently though.

Great guide, thank you. I'm a bit confused though. You say AD tiger is current best meta but then you also say the build to the left which is phoenix. Which i current best meta tiger or phoenix?

Hello man,you are so smart xd

Hello!

I'm not an Udyr expert by any means but recently I've been studying his playstyle, practicing him, etc (as he is extremely strong right now). I also will occasionally watch MetaSolaray, and as an Udyr player I'm sure you know him.

I was curious about some missing setups. Players in Challenger recently have been spamming this champion with Phase Rush -> Nimbus Cloak -> Celerity -> Waterwalking --> Legend: Alacrity -> Triumph. It has also been played in pro play very recently (I can definitely speak to LCS using this, not sure about other regions). Will you add this into your guide? It's a powerful engage tank, and he still does a lot of damage with Wingborne Storm. The items go Turbo Chemtank -> Dead Man's Plate standard with Force of Nature or Thornmail third items. You then go tank items.

Thoughts?

Not so fireproof item set: {"title":"Phoenix Udyr","associatedMaps":[],"associatedChampions":[77],"blocks":[{"items":[{"id":"1039","count":1},{"id":"2031","count":1}],"type":"Start"},{"items":[{"id":"1001","count":1},{"id":"6660","count":1},{"id":"2055","count":1}],"type":"First back"},{"items":[{"id":"3068","count":1},{"id":"3111","count":1},{"id":"3047","count":1}],"type":"Core"},{"items":[{"id":"3742","count":1},{"id":"3065","count":1},{"id":"3110","count":1},{"id":"3001","count":1},{"id":"3102","count":1},{"id":"3075","count":1},{"id":"4401","count":1},{"id":"3100","count":1}],"type":"Options"}]}

I think Last Stand is better than Coup on this champ

This build should be called Foolproof Udyr. Anyways, reporting from my last game experience on your build:

I went 24/7/6 with the Wilding Claw build. I went up against a Jungler Jax. The guy tried to invade me at level 4 when I was level 5 & he got dumpstered. I ganked all my lanes with ease, still managed to keep up my Health with awesome sustain, & got everyone ahead.(Unfortunately we had a Yasuo who fed Ziggs, BUT THAT DIDN'T MATTER! I swooped in & stomp Ziggs easily!) It was a massively winning game, except for our Yasuo who rushed Bloodthirster into Berserker's Greaves into Phantom Dancer & later, at some point in the game after giving him assists, Infinity Edge.

Needless to say, we ended up losing. They had an Enemy Kai'Sa who got fed off of Yasuo & the rest of the team after I shut her down early to mid game. We began losing turrets & only turrets(Because I took all the dragons and eventually Baron), until the point where Jax was at the Nexus, hitting it.

I weighed it out like this: " Jax will just use his Counter Strike & completely avoid my attacks until it's destroyed, so I'll just kill Ziggs again and say GG."

I received SO MUCH HATE from my team for that.

"Why didn't you kill the Jax? What the hell is wrong with you???"

In my mind, I'm thinking, "These guys have no idea what the **** they're talking about if they think I can stop Jax from taking Nexus."

I made an attempt anyways & saw him start up his Counter Strike, so I said **** it & killed Ziggs.

There is no way Udyr could ever stop Jax from looting nexus unless he ****s up his Counter Strike or his teammates stun spam him til his Counter Strike is down, so don't go complaining.

I hope this gets out to all the guys who keep flaming Udyr's for avoiding Jax 9 times out of 10, because the **** really sucks when you go and make us feel bad over something we can't do anything about.

I killed Jax 3 times with Chilling Smite that game!!!!