did this build change with the new patch? I know Thornmail got buffed with its passive.

Dang dude thanks for the On-hit idea I'll give credits if it turns out that I can make a near-meta build with the on-hit stuff, vouchies

So ravenous hunter is just going away and is being replaced by Treasure Hunter which just gives extra gold for the first takedown on each champ. Are you going to make a new build to replace the ravenous hunter one you have now?

extremely helpful, used it for arams lol worked perfectly

I'm on the Rammus mains Discord and everyone says Sunfire is better and that Deadmans is not worth building anymore. What do you think about this?

After the bramble nerf tragedy of 2021, what do you do in terms of first buys? I know Thornymale doubles the damage on your engage, but between the better engage of thornmail versus the 125% damage increase to jungle monsters that a full Bami's mythic gives, I'm just not sure which is more important for Rammus. I've experimented with full clearing until I have the gold for either a full Thornmail buy or a full Mythic, and my clearing doesnt take much of a hit for it but clearly I miss out on gank opportunities. Because bramble is just 35 armor and a lackluster grievous wounds passive, should I even bother combining two cloth armor until I have the gold for a full Thornmail? Or do buy bamis to sit on for a while and full focus on getting a full Thornmail? Thanks for always keeping up with the guide over the years, you've helped me find my true love in Rammus and his sultry six voice lines, you are an "Ok" dude in my big book of rammus

great tips man, thanks for taking the time

I love Rammus and I love this guide! Thanks alot for all the useful information and tips for climbing!

Do you have any thoughts on any new builds with the now released Rammus changes?

Hey Frillen, so I was just thinking, now that ravenous is a pretty dead rune now as it no longer helps give a healthy first clear and the omnivamp is pretty underwhelming now going from the usual 10k+ healing to now like 2k, I was thinking that riftmaker might be a pretty good item to compensate for the loss in omnivamp and the cheap shot damage loss for running the sorcery runepage. It is more expensive, however I think it might just be a better option when you are ahead early, but obviously when even or behind, it's probably still better to get chemtank. Let me know your thoughts!

this has helped me so much, especially the part about focusing on the krugs, ive gotten 4 full S grades and two S- in less than 24 hours, im now one S or S+ from mastery level 7 with rammus

I wasn't sure if I should continue our older comments or make a new one, but I made a new one!

With the new changes to jungle coming Rammus is probably going to be hurt even more than the champs with fast clear right? :(

Interesting guide. I like that you tackle some of the general aspects of climbing and jungling and the personal section on how you became a Rammus main is a nice touch.

Your writing in English is excellent.

Noticed one typo in the Fighting section - Bonusses.

If I had a suggestion to make it would be how you efficiently clear and kite camps with Rammus. What ability order do you use and why? How often are you using Q to get to the next camp. Are there any abilities you don't use if you fear an invade? (e.g. Cowsep suggests holding onto Wuju Style if you are concerned about being invaded).

I also like how you talk about picking a champion/lane to support, but I'd like to see more detail about how you do that. E.g. what is your pathing like if you decided you want to hardcore camp Mid, or Bot, or Top.

What would a list of Rammus's powerspikes be? (I realize you mention some of them throughout the guide, but a list or graph of the high points in one section would be helpful.