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did this build change with the new patch? I know Thornmail got buffed with its passive.

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Dang dude thanks for the On-hit idea I'll give credits if it turns out that I can make a near-meta build with the on-hit stuff, vouchies

So ravenous hunter is just going away and is being replaced by Treasure Hunter which just gives extra gold for the first takedown on each champ. Are you going to make a new build to replace the ravenous hunter one you have now?

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extremely helpful, used it for arams lol worked perfectly

I'm on the Rammus mains Discord and everyone says Sunfire is better and that Deadmans is not worth building anymore. What do you think about this?

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+1 for Frillen

I can add that Rammus is very flexible, you can play any build into him, as long as it has a minimum of resists, if you wanna check some other more off-meta but better to snowball builds, make sure to check mine (sry for advertising in your comment section)

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132 master players played ranked with Rammus over the past 2 days and these are the item winrates.

Don't trust Rammus mains. Trust data.

After the bramble nerf tragedy of 2021, what do you do in terms of first buys? I know Thornymale doubles the damage on your engage, but between the better engage of thornmail versus the 125% damage increase to jungle monsters that a full Bami's mythic gives, I'm just not sure which is more important for Rammus. I've experimented with full clearing until I have the gold for either a full Thornmail buy or a full Mythic, and my clearing doesnt take much of a hit for it but clearly I miss out on gank opportunities. Because bramble is just 35 armor and a lackluster grievous wounds passive, should I even bother combining two cloth armor until I have the gold for a full Thornmail? Or do buy bamis to sit on for a while and full focus on getting a full Thornmail? Thanks for always keeping up with the guide over the years, you've helped me find my true love in Rammus and his sultry six voice lines, you are an "Ok" dude in my big book of rammus

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Emm, Okey...

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I haven't been playing a ton since the Bramble nerfs, and all my games have been short, so I only got to finish 1-2 items and haven't really bothered getting Bramble.

I think rushing a jungle item is the most reasonable plan atm to compensate for slow clearing. But don't try to powerfarm in higher elos, jungle exp and gold are nerfed too hard. Only way to win is to gank a lot and enable someone on your team to carry.

I still rush and before I start to worry about Bramble - and only if they have a lot of healing or sustain, or Thornmail late game vs auto attackers.

seems to be performing better than at the moment though. Stay up to date on Leagueofgraphs.com item stats by elo.

, and are also performing really well.

great tips man, thanks for taking the time

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My pleasure, good sir gayweedlord!

I love Rammus and I love this guide! Thanks alot for all the useful information and tips for climbing!

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I love this kind (of) feedback!

Hey, I don't see any thornmail in the item section. Is there a reason for this? Do you not build that item?

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I finish it, but rarely before , and often - and mostly just for the increased anti heal.

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Do you have any thoughts on any new builds with the now released Rammus changes?

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It's pretty hard to find items that provide more value for at the moment than , , , and . and are decent alternatives to force of nature, but pretty much all the other items are unmatched.

Predator might be a thing tho!

Hey Frillen, so I was just thinking, now that ravenous is a pretty dead rune now as it no longer helps give a healthy first clear and the omnivamp is pretty underwhelming now going from the usual 10k+ healing to now like 2k, I was thinking that riftmaker might be a pretty good item to compensate for the loss in omnivamp and the cheap shot damage loss for running the sorcery runepage. It is more expensive, however I think it might just be a better option when you are ahead early, but obviously when even or behind, it's probably still better to get chemtank. Let me know your thoughts!

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Riftmaker is not good early or mid game, but if you go deadmans, gargoyles into Riftmaker 3rd or 4th I'd expect it to be a a very strong late game mythic.

The problem is that nothing really competes with chemtank and deadmans rush at the moment.

yeah you're right honestly. I played 1 game with riftmaker and it felt nice to heal a lot and do some extra damage, but chemtank deadmans is pretty strong. I guess I just gotta adjust my playstyle until ravenous becomes viable again. I swapped over to sorcery secondary and it feels pretty good with the extra movespeed. I'm still making wits end rush work as well which is nice, bramble into wits into chemtank, although once I get into diamond I feel as though I should probably switch on over to straight up tank.

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this has helped me so much, especially the part about focusing on the krugs, ive gotten 4 full S grades and two S- in less than 24 hours, im now one S or S+ from mastery level 7 with rammus

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I wasn't sure if I should continue our older comments or make a new one, but I made a new one!

With the new changes to jungle coming Rammus is probably going to be hurt even more than the champs with fast clear right? :(

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At first glance it doesn't look very fonky. It's a bit of a struggle to keep tempo early already, so seem like we might be going full support Rammus soon. Who knows, maybe the new ult is gonna be so OP that we'll be fine. Or worst case we're gonna suck for a few patches and hope for a buff. It goes up and down!

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Hi, some questions:
• About Ninja Tabi's you say they're meh in the item notes, but then you say that they're fantastic and the god boots for duels. So what is it?
• In itemization you say "On your first buy, you can also look to finish Skirmisher's Sabre". Does it mean that there are cases when it is better to get Skirmisher's before Bami's Cinder? If so, when would that be?
• You said in a previous comment that you typically prioritize Bloodrazor before boots. Does it mean that you don’t even buy boots of speed until you get Bloodrazor?
• You say you have used Wit’s End instead of Abyssal Mask recently. Is it a superior choice in general or does it depend on some particular playstyle (or something else)?
• What do you mean by "CSing and pathing more efficiently"? I've watched the first few minutes of the video you use as an example and I couldn't see anything special in that sense.

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I have only played Bloodrazor for more than a year by now, and I would mostly consider Tabis and Abbysal when playing with Cinderhulk.

I haven't played with skirmishers saber for a long time, because gap closing is harder in higher elo, and Bloodrazor is only good when you can stick to targets and auto attack. You get kited too hard without swifties, ghost and stalkers blade when running Bloodrazor.

Bloodrazor has a slightly riskier early game and a stronger midgame spike than cinderhulk, Cinderhulk has less needs of ressources, so you can go boots and spam ganks, whereas Bloodrazor more often - not always though - need to not miss farm, and boots can delay farming if you can't use them to get successful ganks.

There is no one right answer for any elo or playstyle, but I list all the items that I think should be considered.

Wits end has amazing winrate statistics, I think it's op with both Cinderhulk and Bloodrazor, But if you have reliable follow up magic damage and need to survive more burst damage, Abyssal can be relevant in some situations. For instance, it's amazing for toplane Rammus, who has mana issues.

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Bloodrazor more often - not always though - need to not miss farm, and boots can delay farming if you can't use them to get successful ganks.

Does it mean that you don't even get until you finish Bloodrazor?

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I haven't played with skirmishers saber for a long time, because gap closing is harder in higher elo, and Bloodrazor is only good when you can stick to targets and auto attack. You get kited too hard without swifties, ghost and stalkers blade when running Bloodrazor.

Yeah, but whether it's Skirmisher's or Stalker's, you cannot get both in your first back, that would cost 1900 gold. So would you get one of these in your first back instead of Bami's?

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Bami's can be your first back if you wanna tower dive very early with the extra hp, but most often you'd benefit more from finishing your jungle item first for a faster healthier clear.

I prefer some early daggers or cloth armor for clearing or stalkers + boots for ganking.

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OK, let's see if I got it right:
For your first back you buy Stalker's Blade.
For your second back you buy cloth armor/daggers/boots of speed + Bami's cinder.
For your third back you complete your jungle item with the enchantment (plus anything else you can afford).
Is that (roughly) correct?

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Stalkers and boots are for gank potential, machete and daggers are better for clearing if you can't gank, cloth armor are just all-around great early.

There is no "correct" order for every game.

In high elo it's very common to rush early boots and blue smite, but if you can't translate that into ganks it's safer to rush machete + recurve bow/bamis cinder for clear speed.

If you wanna duel something like a kha'zix you could rush bramble + even red smite/tabis.

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