Nighthawk wrote:
Veigar is underrated, so is Kayle and TF. I can't remember the last time I saw someone play Veigar well, even though he counters pretty well any carry in the game.
I see enough "pro" TFs fail that I can not believe anyone would say he's underrated. I see him at least every other game.
Nasus: Not underrated for those who know his niche. He's basically only good way late game, and his
Wither is shut down by merc treads. Only a good champion with insane amounts of farm.
Sivir is basically Caitlyn with a worse laning phase and better pushing/farming. Not much teamfight damage and altogether unimpressive after her nerfs.
Kayle has a garbage laning phase and really needs farm to be able to do well - past that, she's good.
Urgot is NOT underrated in high ELO play. He's a common pick because he's got such strong lane dominance that any good urgot vs. any decent late-game carry is GG before the carry can get farmed.
Swain is not underrated in high ELO play, but he loses effectiveness against a heavy ranged team.
Veigar isn't underrated, he's as much garbage as people say. His event horizon isn't very good CC and his best nuke is hard to land. He doesn't counter AP carries as much as people say; getting an all-around good AP nuke, such as Annie, is going to be better than devoting a champion entirely to ulting the enemy AP champion and then dying.
Twisted Fate's pretty good, idk about underrated or not.

Sivir is basically Caitlyn with a worse laning phase and better pushing/farming. Not much teamfight damage and altogether unimpressive after her nerfs.
Kayle has a garbage laning phase and really needs farm to be able to do well - past that, she's good.
Urgot is NOT underrated in high ELO play. He's a common pick because he's got such strong lane dominance that any good urgot vs. any decent late-game carry is GG before the carry can get farmed.
Swain is not underrated in high ELO play, but he loses effectiveness against a heavy ranged team.
Veigar isn't underrated, he's as much garbage as people say. His event horizon isn't very good CC and his best nuke is hard to land. He doesn't counter AP carries as much as people say; getting an all-around good AP nuke, such as Annie, is going to be better than devoting a champion entirely to ulting the enemy AP champion and then dying.
Twisted Fate's pretty good, idk about underrated or not.
Nasus isn't underrated.
He's got a high learning curve.
His skills are designed like this: Use Q, Use Spirit fire, Use Wither to keep target on SF, Use Q again to whomp them with their Armor down.
But to pull off this combo is far easier said then done...
And there's actually farming his Q...
He's extremely team reliant, and easily kited.
He's a solid champion design wise, but he lacks compared to all the new ones since his creation.
He's got a high learning curve.
His skills are designed like this: Use Q, Use Spirit fire, Use Wither to keep target on SF, Use Q again to whomp them with their Armor down.
But to pull off this combo is far easier said then done...
And there's actually farming his Q...
He's extremely team reliant, and easily kited.
He's a solid champion design wise, but he lacks compared to all the new ones since his creation.
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Generally champions being underrated are highly correlated with the levels of concentration or skill needed to do well with them.
Example:
Clairvoyance is an amazing summoner spell. But people will, in majority, opt for flash or ghost if forced to pick, because it's simply easier to use.
Can you imagine how horrible your game would be if your opponents had penta-clairvoyance going and all mastered using it as well as ganking coordination while playing all champions with hard stuns and sustained damage?
Flash + Ghost + Jungler + Roamer + stuns won't do **** for you.
-You recall, they push like crazy
-Your jungler comes, they're already out of the gankable area
-You ward, they use oracle, they dont need wards!
-You push, there's 3 of them behind you!
-You ask for group gank, they always b before you can set it up.
-You try to split push, they flank your *** and split push back without being gankable
-You jungle, they're coming!
-You dragon, they're THERE!
-You baron? You died for thinking about it!!
-You try to team fight, they run around and won't let you!
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people try to 2v1 after letting me farm all game.
Lots of people are bad at doing that keyword.
Game wise, Nasus needs a lot of that to do well. If you slack off at all, it snowballs badly.
Example:
Clairvoyance is an amazing summoner spell. But people will, in majority, opt for flash or ghost if forced to pick, because it's simply easier to use.
Can you imagine how horrible your game would be if your opponents had penta-clairvoyance going and all mastered using it as well as ganking coordination while playing all champions with hard stuns and sustained damage?
Flash + Ghost + Jungler + Roamer + stuns won't do **** for you.
-You recall, they push like crazy
-Your jungler comes, they're already out of the gankable area
-You ward, they use oracle, they dont need wards!
-You push, there's 3 of them behind you!
-You ask for group gank, they always b before you can set it up.
-You try to split push, they flank your *** and split push back without being gankable
-You jungle, they're coming!
-You dragon, they're THERE!
-You baron? You died for thinking about it!!
-You try to team fight, they run around and won't let you!
"Big brother's watching you!!! O3O"
B-Wong wrote:
people try to 2v1 after letting me farm all game.
Lots of people are bad at doing that keyword.
Game wise, Nasus needs a lot of that to do well. If you slack off at all, it snowballs badly.
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JunSupport wrote:
Lots of people are bad at doing that keyword.
I just want to quickly reiterate this point. Try using someones referral link and watch as they auto attack minions and you last hit and check the minion kills after the game. Last hitting is CRUCIAL to success. I mean seriously, Rammus should not be outfarming Ashe. And yes, as JunSupport said farming is so much the crutch to Nasus that holds most people down: They don't know how to farm with is E or Q efficiently at all.







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