The Remade Alistar

[quote=Zeprido]Alistar is now one of my favorite champions, need to watch a few roaming videos on him, especially since jungling with him isn't the best idea, others can do it better. Not to mention Jungler plus Roamer = OP[/quote]

[quote=Hamduden]@Searz: Thanks a lot for explanation! ;) - I get why you're not interested in explaining all the time. The only reason I wrote what I wrote, was because I (and perhaps others) don't always have the knowledge needed to see certain points as clearly as you do. Logically it seems to me that the more CC the better, and that was why I asked the question. Apparently it seems that 1-2 disables like Alistar's Pulverize is more than enough. @Topic: Nice thought on Headbutt minion -> pulverize without knocking back Jebus. Have to try that one! Furthermore it's still awesome that the Headbutt/Pulverize combo works, thanks for pointing that out Zeprido! :) Really have to try Ali out soon.[/quote]

[quote=Hamduden][quote=Zeprido] Alistar is now one of my favorite champions, need to watch a few roaming videos on him, especially since jungling with him isn't the best idea, others can do it better. Not to mention Jungler plus Roamer = OP [/quote] It's super awesome! ;D .. much better than just one guy roaming, since you'll have 3 solo lanes then.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Hamduden] Nice thought on Headbutt minion -> pulverize without knocking back Jebus. Have to try that one![/quote] Why would you use this over the Headbutt->Pulverize combo? (I haven't tried the combo yet)[/quote]

[quote=Riggsinator]I'm not sure why some people are complaining that the new Alistar sucks... I find him to be quite good. Though I haven't played him yet I've played with/against a few that turned the tides of some team fights. Plus, the old Alistar was quite trashy so I just don't get why anyone would complain about him. However, Gangplank is as useless as ever. His ult is the only thing that he brings to games now heh.[/quote]

[quote=Xiaowiriamu]I'm sure Phreak said he can jungle better, but he still sucks, his passive doesn't even move the minions health bar... Unless I'm quoted wrong here. Still, it's nice to see Alistar being used more frequently now. P.S fiddle buff is gay.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]^His passive deals double its damage to minions and monsters. 20 dps at level 1. So, half of a sunfire cape for 3 seconds.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=Searz] [quote=Hamduden] Nice thought on Headbutt minion -> pulverize without knocking back Jebus. Have to try that one![/quote] Why would you use this over the Headbutt->Pulverize combo? (I haven't tried the combo yet) [/quote] [quote=Jebus McAzn] [quote=JunSupport] Waaait. I always thought it was the Pulverize -> Headbutt combo. Knock up -> Knock back to ally base direction -> Allies get more distance/time to kill target [/quote] The problem with that is that you have to get within Pulverize range first, although if you can, that's obviously the stronger combo. Headbutt->Pulverize allowed for an extremely fast instant stun that didn't knock them back if executed correctly. Now that you can headbutt minions, there are some really cool tricks that you can do - for example, headbutting a minion next to a champion so you can land a Pulverize on them without knocking them back at all. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Jebus McAzn] Now that you can headbutt minions, there are some really cool tricks that you can do - for example, headbutting a minion next to a champion so you can land a Pulverize on them without knocking them back at all.[/quote] But you aren't knocking them back with Headbutt->Pulverize anyway, right? Using Headbutt on a minion will will waste potential damage.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Because some people have trouble with the timing :D I suppose that it would be most useful to abuse the range of Pulverize and to hit enemies that are barely out of pulverize range. In most cases, the standard combo is better though.[/quote]